Not just hogging the middle lane

Guest101

Jack_Regan wrote: »

How can a force recommend you use something contrary to manufacturers guidelines?

Because they can use it to a 'better' standard than the minimum... That's like saying the car manufacturer says you dont need to service for 12,000 miles, but you can choose to service every 10,000

Joe_Horner

Jack_Regan wrote: »

[...] you have already been told that by you own force, haven't you?

No, they haven't pulled him over since the changes came in.

Jack_Regan

Guest101 wrote: »

Because they can use it to a 'better' standard than the minimum... That's like saying the car manufacturer says you dont need to service for 12,000 miles, but you can choose to service every 10,000

So who is more qualified in the force to make such a decision?

If something is within calibration date its calibrated. Just because acpo write a manual of guidance doesn't mean that changes.

But as you'll know force policy usually states it must be used inline with manufacturer instructions. Unless you have evidence to the contrary.

When did you last calibrate such a device and how did you do it?

Guest101

Jack_Regan wrote: »

When were you authorised to use such equipment?

Prove you're trained to use them and therefore know what you're actually talking about and I'll reveal my qualifications.

Until you can you're all hot air and google links.;)

The link is accurate, and i havent been trained to use these devices. Clearly neither have you.

Or if you have, i'd question that training!

Guest101

Jack_Regan wrote: »

So who is more qualified in the force to make such a decision?

If something is within calibration date its calibrated. Just because acpo write a manual of guidance doesn't mean that changes.

But as you'll know force policy usually states it must be used inline with manufacturer instructions. Unless you have evidence to the contrary.

When did you last calibrate such a device and how did you do it?

The manufacturer does not make laws, the home office issues guidlines, and the law refers to these guidelines in enforcement.

I haven't that doesnt mean im wrong.

Jack_Regan

Joe_Horner wrote: »

No, they haven't pulled him over since the changes came in.

He's talking like he issues the things.;)

He's a wannabe black rat I think.

Vicmeldrew

Guest101 wrote: »

The penanlties may increase, however if you have a genuine belief that you have broken no law, then you have nothing to fear.

The point of the courts is to decide guilt. By accepted a FPN you are admitting guilt, so its not quite like that

So, say you were scratching your ear whilst driving and a Pc mistakenly thinks he saw you using a mobile phone.


Try defending that in Mags. What will happen is that Pc's word will be accepted as proof even though he/she was mistaken. After all, why would said Pc perjure themselves? Nothing to gain!


You on the other hand have a reason to say you weren't.


Nothing to fear?


I am not by any means saying there is a conspiracy, I am just stating that it is your word against the prosecution, on that balance people find themselves suddenly on the receiving end of injustice. That's just the way it is.

Jack_Regan

Guest101 wrote: »

The link is accurate, and i havent been trained to use these devices. Clearly neither have you.

Or if you have, i'd question that training!

What's your link to, the acpo guidelines to speed enforcement?

I have a hard copy, do you or are you just googling this?

Jack_Regan

Guest101 wrote: »

The manufacturer does not make laws, the home office issues guidlines, and the law refers to these guidelines in enforcement.

I haven't that doesnt mean im wrong.

Wrong.

The law makes it an offence to exceed the speed limit.

The manufacturers make a device to gain evidence which the home secretary approves.

ACPO issue some guidelines on best practice.

Two police officers on foot a the side of the road could be enough to convict for speeding.

You are lacking an understanding on these matters.

Guest101

Joe_Horner wrote: »

No, they haven't pulled him over since the changes came in.

And they wont, since i dont break the law.

But its good to know the law since not all police officer are honourable..