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the men who made us thin

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fascinating program on BBC2 now... explaining the background behind the diet industry and why diets dont work long term
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  • Brian8888
    Brian8888 Posts: 73 Forumite
    Thanks for sharing this!
  • sophlowe45
    sophlowe45 Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    Watching it now.
  • sophlowe45
    sophlowe45 Posts: 1,559 Forumite
    edited 9 August 2013 at 1:11PM
    Only watched a bit as I was too tired but dieting doesn't work, its lifestyle changes forever which is not a diet its healthier eating and dealing with psychological issues behind eating is what I would guess the presenter of the show wanted to say and the diet industry can encourage people through advertising that there is an easier solution.

    I have been having a lot less sugar in my diet, but I was at someone elses flat yesterday and I had no plan to do this, but I had lots of soft drinks, roasted nuts, crisps, chocolates and biscuits. They must have thought I hadn't eaten for two days. I was not even a little hungry as the 5:2 diet has really helped me with not being hungry all the time.

    i really don't know how the UK is going to cope with the obesity crisis and the resulting healthcare people require.
  • tesuhoha
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    sophlowe45 wrote: »
    Only watched a bit as I was too tired but dieting doesn't work, its lifestyle changes forever which is not a diet its healthier eating and dealing with psychological issues behind eating is what I would guess the presenter of the show wanted to say and the diet industry can encourage people through advertising that there is an easier solution.

    I have been having a lot less sugar in my diet, but I was at someone elses flat yesterday and I had no plan to do this, but I had lots of soft drinks, roasted nuts, crisps, chocolates and biscuits. They must have thought I hadn't eaten for two days. I was not even a little hungry as the 5:2 diet has really helped me with not being hungry all the time.

    i really don't know how the UK is going to cope with the obesity crisis and the resulting healthcare people require.


    Even if you are on the 5:2 eating plan you should not deny yourself on non fast days. This is what makes you binge. However, the occasional binge is not the end of the world as long as you don't do it all the time.
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  • Mr_helpful
    Mr_helpful Posts: 3,233 Forumite
    Only just watched it on I player. I think it did a good job of showing up the diet industry and showing that diets are pretty universal in making their creator rich and their punter poorer but fatter. The rewards for failure are high. It is a pity that people on diets will still believe the blurb they have been given by their diet
    I like to give people as many choices as possible to do what I want them to. (Milton H Erickson I think)
  • lostinrates
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    tesuhoha wrote: »
    Even if you are on the 5:2 eating plan you should not deny yourself on non fast days. This is what makes you binge. However, the occasional binge is not the end of the world as long as you don't do it all the time.

    There is 'denying yourself' and 'denying yourself' IMO.

    I think there can be no good in being on five two and eating junk food solidly on five days a week because you habit before five two has been very I poor junk food binging, not doing so might feel like denial.

    Being on five two as part of a plan that is healthily inclusive, not 'restrictive, but not indulgent either, but to some sound full of ' denying oneself' but to others seem perfect.


    'Binge' might be - little down to perspective too.
  • thor
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    Nearly all diets would work for people who could stick to them. The problem is that people can't. Is that the fault of the diet or the fault of the dieter?
  • angelil
    angelil Posts: 1,001 Forumite
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    Thor just said what I was going to. C4 did a programme about Weight Watchers not that long ago and their frankly crappy premise was based on exactly that: diet 'failure' being the fault of the diet itself, not the dieter. Sounds like this programme was equally well "researched".
  • hannah899
    hannah899 Posts: 1,165 Forumite
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    I liked it. I also liked his other the men that made us fat. its a 3 parter so looking forward to the next part. Althought it doesn't go in each subject as much as some people would like.
    I did love the weight watchers bit. " weight watchers diet is a failure, because if it was a success than the business would be a failure"
    it might not be much, but its better than a kick in the teeth:rotfl:

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  • Mr_helpful
    Mr_helpful Posts: 3,233 Forumite
    thor wrote: »
    Nearly all diets would work for people who could stick to them. The problem is that people can't. Is that the fault of the diet or the fault of the dieter?
    Diets dont work because restricting food is likely to make the body think that food is in short supply and so activate yout fat hormones. This is the fault of the diet.
    I like to give people as many choices as possible to do what I want them to. (Milton H Erickson I think)
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