Crash on roundabout

alastairq

There is difficulty in 'proving' who was on 'first'.

The OP did state the van was seen approaching. [from the OP's right].

The OP will have difficulty proving the van was in fact a 'following vehicle' on the roundabout..[ie did not met the criteria for being 'given way' to?]..having been hit on the side.

The OP needs to demonstrate the van driver failed to exercise due care & attention. [what the van driver drove like, prior to the collision, only tries to set a 'tone'.....and will have little bearing on what contribution there may have been to the collision.]

I suspect the insurance outcome will not favour the OP. [failure to give way??]

billydwarf

The drawing is right,

DUTR

billydwarf wrote: »

The drawing is right, however no chances were taken and it is a large roundabout, I have been driving since 1980, no crashes also advanced driver and fire service driver.The bloke was at least 50 yards from the roundabout when I started my maouver.
Dont forget I have two witnesses who have told the police how he was driving.

Sadly the highlighted bit means little, you can search the news articles for Fire appliances crashing on the way to an incident.
Now forgetting the imperial to metric converstion, at 30mph the oncoming vehicle is covering around 14metres/s and hence at 60mph 28metres/s, so the vehicle cannot suddenly appear from nowhere even if he was speeding, and if he was speeding to that extent, then 1) the van may not have negotiated the roundabout 2) you would be writing the post from a hospital bed.

billydwarf

DUTR wrote: »

Sadly the highlighted bit means little, you can search the news articles for Fire appliances crashing on the way to an incident.
Now forgetting the imperial to metric converstion, at 30mph the oncoming vehicle is covering around 14metres/s and hence at 60mph 28metres/s, so the vehicle cannot suddenly appear from nowhere even if he was speeding, and if he was speeding to that extent, then 1) the van may not have negotiated the roundabout 2) you would be writing the post from a hospital bed.

If it wasn't for my side airbags I would be in hospital, my A3 is a write off.

Thanks for all your replies. I know that had he not been speeding this wouldnt have happened and so does he, I await the decision from the insurance company not that it makes much difference.

DUTR

billydwarf wrote: »

If it wasn't for my side airbags I would be in hospital, my A3 is a write off.

Thanks for all your replies. I know that had he not been speeding this wouldnt have happened and so does he, I await the decision from the insurance company not that it makes much difference.

The Insurance companies follow a simple set of rules as the costs can exceed the claim, eg vehicle A collides with the rear of vehicle B , A= liable. Vehicle A crosses a solid white dividing line and collides with B, A=fault, pedestrian runs into the path of an oncoming vehicle, pedestrian =fault, pedestrian runs into the path of an oncoming vehicle, driver is breathalysed and over the limit, driver's fault, there are lots of scenarios and then to save time and resource split liability can come into effect. Circumstantial evidence may come into effect and they opt for split liability.

arcon5

Can you tell us the roundabout and roads was concerned to search on Google Earth?

As if it was a large roundabout, I don't understand how he could have traveled 50 yards to join the round about, plus got to the next entrance of the roundabout to collide with you in the time you enter the round about and progress forward.

billydwarf

arcon5 wrote: »

Can you tell us the roundabout and roads was concerned to search on Google Earth?

As if it was

DUTR

billydwarf wrote: »

Roundabout on Chester road, Springwell road and Holborn road in Sunderland
I was on chester road turning into holborn road, he was coming down holborn road.The van was beside the junction just before the roundabout when I saw him.Witnesses state he didnt slow down at all on his approach and had passed them on holborn road at over 40mph bipping his horn and flashing his lights.The van is quite big.

Does this work?

billydwarf

Nnnnnnnnnnn

DUTR

billydwarf wrote: »

Thats it, I was on the 183 beside the petrol station turning into holborn road he was at the junction with the nook on holborn road when I saw him, he went straight over, heading into springwell road.I was doing about five mph when I got hit.
Holborn road is B1405

I'm not keen on that bit Is that speed prudent to be crossing a junction in a motorised vehicle? Just my question (although the insurers could ask the same, out of interest does you car or did your car have the auto stop start feature? I know on my mate's Audi, I have been cought out a couple of times by it shutting off at a roundabout and not starting up again quickly enough