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Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

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  • PasturesNew
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    Had a frost overnight here. It's a bit nippy this morning....
  • lostinrates
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    I've been Money Tipped!
    Provably better having to face modern reality at too young an age rather than (say) after 11/12 when the misconceptions and hormones start getting in the way of rational dialogue.
    10/11 seems to be the age when children are the most rational, between then and 21 some of them go down hill a lot. Part of the problem is the belief/realisation that their parents have turned into know nothing fossils.
    [Parents seem to learn a lot of the missing wisdom by the time the child reaches 25 so don't panic they do come through it usually the better for the experiences].

    There is that whole wonderful period of life, before that age, where black is black and white is white. Its an easier time of thought.


    I'll be honest, if I were Gen, I'd be out of my tree with white hot fury. But he cannot have his son unknow that stuff. The kids parents would know not within 48 hours but sooner...so the kid is limited who it can tell over the weekend. The sharing suggests to me he's seeking to share the experience to make sense of it. Both kids I suppose. It says a lot for you gen that you are the person your little boy chose to make sense of it with, to air his concern with.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Had a frost overnight here. It's a bit nippy this morning....

    We have a meeting with one of the potential heating engineers this morning.

    I've lit the woodburner (wit books like someone from the Deep South campaigning against the written word that might decry god somehow, fear not nice people, these are books with damage such as makes them until table to charity).

    Both my vacuum cleaners are on the blink. I'd like to claim it was over use but........
  • LydiaJ
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    Generali wrote: »
    8???????

    Seems a bit young to me.

    I think what silvercar meant was that if a 2 year old saw something like that, it would make no sense to them and they would ignore it, so it wouldn't affect them. An older teenager would understand what it was and what it meant. But at 8 they are old enough to know it means something, but they aren't ready to understand what.
    I'll be honest, if I were Gen, I'd be out of my tree with white hot fury. But he cannot have his son unknow that stuff. The kids parents would know not within 48 hours but sooner...so the kid is limited who it can tell over the weekend. The sharing suggests to me he's seeking to share the experience to make sense of it. Both kids I suppose. It says a lot for you gen that you are the person your little boy chose to make sense of it with, to air his concern with.

    What lir said.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Generali wrote: »
    Joy of joys.

    While FPW was at ballet #1 Son said, "I think my friend (who is also 8 years old) watched a film that wasn't very suitable. A man put his willy in a lady's mouth and then in her front bottom". They're 8!!! I despair.

    Do you know how the mate came to saw it?

    I'd be on to mate's parents sharpish, they'll probably (hopefully) also be horrified.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Spirit_2
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    Do you know how the mate came to saw it?

    I'd be on to mate's parents sharpish, they'll probably (hopefully) also be horrified.

    Horrified possibly on several counts:

    that he had access to it at all.

    that he was somewhere outside of the home and was not protected from this.

    that it was available at home:o:o:o.
  • zagubov
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    That's an eye-opener and somewhat depressing!:eek:

    I find the most interesting websites (like The Squashed Philosophers one ) were brilliant and I'd miss them and love to keep track of them via the Waback Machine. Hate for them to disappear forever.

    Stuff does disappear from the internet, especially letter/comments pages from news-sites, and these can contain some of the best writing you'll ever see. Gone for good! Like the BBC's bulk eraser allover again!
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • SingleSue
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    Middle son's latest drum cover...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bO9TFi3YyI
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • LydiaJ
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    edited 16 November 2013 at 12:46PM
    Spirit wrote: »
    Horrified possibly on several counts:

    that he had access to it at all.

    that he was somewhere outside of the home and was not protected from this.

    that it was available at home:o:o:o.

    Spirit, the most likely possibility is that it was online. Plenty of kids have laptops/tablets that they can access the internet from in a different room from where the parents are busy. Doesn't even need to have been accessed from a computer. A smart phone will do. Doesn't have to have been his own smart phone, either. Maybe the mate watched with another child on the other child's phone, and then told generalissimo about it afterwards. Or he could have "borrowed" an older sibling's phone. Or a parent upgrading their own phone could have let the kid play with the old phone without realising what it would give them access to. Or something. This stuff (including not just normal sex but sexual violence etc) is sooo easy to get hold of, regardless of how old you are. It's really not possible for any parent to be sure that their kids will not be able to find it, or even that they won't stumble across it by accident. It's terrifying, but that is the world we live in, and as parents we have to face that.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • Spirit wrote: »
    Horrified possibly on several counts:

    that he had access to it at all.

    that he was somewhere outside of the home and was not protected from this.

    that it was available at home:o:o:o.

    The problem is, if kids want to go out and find this stuff on the Internet, they will. No amount of Security will stop it, they'll just go over to a mates house and watch it there. It's not just !!!!!!, there's torture and even beheadings to be watched, at the press of a button.

    I find the whole thing very depressing, and I can understand Gens distress. I really can't see what the answer is!
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