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Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

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  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    I don't know whether it's linear or an exponential drop. The reason there's such a huge fertility industry now was that people postpone families past the stage that conception occurs easily, (and also some syptomless diseases have led to scarred fallopian tubes).
    Used to teach a course about fertility and genetics.

    The latest I've heard about the HRT prevents Alzheimers/HRT causes Alzheimers controversy is that it depends on whether the woman has had a majopr fall in estrogen levels prior to starting therapy. Protects if there's been no fall yet, but not so good if there has been. Sooner may be better than later seems to be the message.

    How do you know when oestrogen levels drop?

    I thought high oestrogen was a contributory cause of breast cancer?

    I wasn't going to bother taking anything for menopause..am I wrong in that decision?

    PS Thanks button doesn't seem to want to work so I may be thanks-free this evening
  • zagubov
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    edited 16 September 2013 at 9:28PM
    Oh bloody hell, now we have a new thing to worry about with Alzheimer's?

    How do we know when twenty years before ruddy menopause is anyway.....?


    Is it like puberty, is there a sort of a linkage with weight or wear or what?

    Check with parents and their sibs I suppose.

    I thought most people discussed risks of family illnesses before starting HRT, and doctors don't routinely recommend it to just everyone, so as not to raise disease risk rather than lower it.

    I wonder if Ben Goldacre's looked into this?
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  • LydiaJ
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    fc123 wrote: »
    How do you know when oestrogen levels drop?

    I thought high oestrogen was a contributory cause of breast cancer?

    I wasn't going to bother taking anything for menopause..am I wrong in that decision?

    PS Thanks button doesn't seem to want to work so I may be thanks-free this evening

    I thought HRT increased risk of breast cancer - so could be about oestrogen levels. I know a friend of mine whose mum died of breast cancer said that her mum felt it was down to having taken HRT and now regretted it, but we all know how much weight should be given to anecdotal evidence, don't we?
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • lostinrates
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    zagubov wrote: »
    Check with parents and their sibs I suppose.

    I thought most people discussed risks of family illnesses before starting HRT, and doctors don't routinely recommend it to just everyone, so as not to raise disease risk rather than lower it.

    Pfffft. That's not going to be admitted.
  • chewmylegoff
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    Nikkster wrote: »
    I doubt it. I don't think he'd venture this far oop North. I also only have one set of ginger genes :D

    Long distance relationships are the best. As long as you never have to meet. Cheap as chips.
  • zagubov
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    Pfffft. That's not going to be admitted.

    Are late children common among family members? My sister had a baby in her mid-40s (I'll be 70 when the baby's 18). That makes me feel really a bit old.
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  • lostinrates
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    zagubov wrote: »
    Are late children common among family members? My sister had a baby in her mid-40s (I'll be 70 when the baby's 18). That makes me feel really a bit old.

    I don't really know. I 'll have to think about it. I think mainly 'normal' ages.

    Fairly long lived though. More than one in the hundreds.
  • zagubov
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    I'm vaguely aware that HRT protects against some diseases and worsens the risk of others so it depends on what the patients family history of heart disease, and various cancers and maybe other diseases. I'm a bloke (allegedly) and I'm afraid my knowledge is a bit limited.

    I didn't even realse men had progesterone until I had to teach something about it.
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  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I thought HRT increased risk of breast cancer - so could be about oestrogen levels. I know a friend of mine whose mum died of breast cancer said that her mum felt it was down to having taken HRT and now regretted it, but we all know how much weight should be given to anecdotal evidence, don't we?

    When did prescribing HRT become routine?

    Apparently we get really moody and it's meant to 'cure' that....but I figure if I get moody now it's because I can have a good old grumble and it doesn't matter so much.

    I actually have no idea on what menopause symptoms are apart from that you get 'hot'.

    Periods still as regular as clockwork too so guess it's not kicked in yet.
  • Nikkster
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    edited 16 September 2013 at 10:07PM
    Long distance relationships are the best. As long as you never have to meet. Cheap as chips.

    I'm happy to be called a lot of things (well, perhaps not happy but couldn't argue), cheap isn't one of them :)

    Edit: I do quite like chips, but I think I'm going to have to resist for the foreseeable future to try and shift the weight I've put on in the past few weeks :(
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