Fake money out of cashpoint -who will refund money?

John1993_2

reclusive46 wrote: »

I know I'll get bashed for this but just use it some other place. Somebody else won't notice. Nobody is going to arrest someone for having counterfeit money. 10% of the population probably have counterfeit money in their wallets.

If you are going to give bad advice, advising someone to risk a prison sentence for their grandmother, then could you at least do them the service of reading their post properly first?

The shop held on to the fake note, so she cannot just try to pass it off elsewhere.

System

matttye wrote: »

Both are very serious criminal offences because they devalue currency.

Any devaluation is negligible compared with that perpetrated by successive governments with impunity.

Once counterfeit money is loose in circulation it would cause more currency instability if a government admitted it than if they downplayed the problem.

pqrdef

matttye wrote: »

Both are very serious criminal offences because they devalue currency.

Not really. At some point, somebody will have to write off a duff note as a loss, just as if the dog ate it, so the net effect on the economy will be zero.

matttye

antrobus wrote: »

Possession of counterfeit money isn't a strict liability offence. Both simple possession of counterfeit money and possession with intent to pass it off are offences under s 16 Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 but both require knowledge or belief that the money is counterfeit.

Yes, I know they require mens rea. Unfortunately sometimes people need to be arrested and indeed charged before the police/crown get to the bottom of what they've done.

pqrdef wrote: »

Not really. At some point, somebody will have to write off a duff note as a loss, just as if the dog ate it, so the net effect on the economy will be zero.

I meant the offence in general is a serious one; not this specific case.

bernie1950

this happened to me I took money out of cash machine went into the shop the assistant scaned my £10 pound note and said it was fake and I could not have it back I went into the post office where the cash machine was told the post office assistant what had happened she came with me to the shop looked at the £10 note the note was an old note the scanner did not recognise this it took a scanner pen to prove the note was not a fake I got the note back and took it to the bank the bank said it is most unlikely to get a fake note from a cash machine


























































































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al25

spacey2012 wrote: »

I would be more suspicious of the servant in the shop, they could quite easily switch notes and pocket the real £20 or even lie about it been a fake at all and say they have to keep it, the threat to call the police is what gives it away.

When investigating any type of fraud, the person who stands to benefit from it is always number 1 suspect.
All other theories get run through number 1 first.

Totally agree, these servants have swindled winning lottery tickets off vulnerable people.

NotRichAtAll

as a bus driver i have to be very wary when we get handed note's, usually i can tell by the feel now but i still have a pen and uv light handy.

when they say "single to wherever" i just reply not with that one your not normally they ask for a stupid small fare and produce a 10 or 20 note.

any fake money we end up with we have to replace out of our own pocket when we cash in.

BillJones

reclusive46 wrote: »

I know I'll get bashed for this but just use it some other place.

We need to flesh this criminal plan out a bit first. How do you reckon she retrieves it, a hold-up of the cash office with shooters, or she abseils in from a helicopter at night, blows the safe, and escapes by motorbike?