kidney transplant support to wrag

eddieneil22

hello all ,

3 years ago i was given the gift of life a new kidney from my brother,i have had a few problems since.
last week i went for a atos medical,i was moved from the support group to the wrag group,can i appeal against this because i have to take immunosuppressent drugs for the rest of my life and these drugs put me at a higher risk of picking up a infection which can be very bad for me,being asked to attend interviews at the benefits office puts me in groups of possible unwell people so the chances of picking up a infection are greater.

hope someone can help thank you:)

nannytone_2

to be honest, if your kidney troubles ( helped massively by the transplant) are your only health issue, then i think you could even struggle to be placed in the WRAG.

job centres are far less germ ridden that doctors/hospita;ls but i assume you attend these for check ups?

transplant patients regularly go on to lead normal productive lived even when having to take anti rejection drugs

iammumtoone

Why is going to the job center and any more at risk for catching something that walking down the street or going to a supermarket?

I understand you need to be careful but I am assuming you don't spend all your time indoors to avoid germs? I don't see why the job center is an 'at risk' environment.

NYM

One of the teaching assistants at our village school had a heart and lung transplant op 2 years ago.
Must admit, I thought a school would be the last place to work !

epitome

eddieneil22 wrote: »

hello all ,

3 years ago i was given the gift of life a new kidney from my brother,i have had a few problems since.
last week i went for a atos medical,i was moved from the support group to the wrag group,can i appeal against this because i have to take immunosuppressent drugs for the rest of my life and these drugs put me at a higher risk of picking up a infection which can be very bad for me,being asked to attend interviews at the benefits office puts me in groups of possible unwell people so the chances of picking up a infection are greater.

hope someone can help thank you:)

Which of these do you think that comes under? or are you going for Regulation 35... would come to significant harm if not put in Support Group? In which case you will have to show why you can visit your doctor/hospital and you will need at least a letter from your doctor saying that you would be in significant danger if you went into a jobcentre or a work program environment.

Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity
Descriptors for each activity

1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally, or could reasonably be worn or used.
Cannot either:
(a) mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion; or
(b) repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.

2.Transferring from one seated position to another.
Cannot move between one seated position and another seated position located next to one another without receiving physical assistance from another person.

3. Reaching.
Cannot raise either arm as if to put something in the top pocket of a coat or jacket.

4. Picking up and moving or transferring by the use of the upper body and arms (excluding standing, sitting, bending or kneeling and all other activities specified in this Schedule).
Cannot pick up and move a 0.5 litre carton full of liquid.

5. Manual dexterity.
Cannot either:
(a) press a button, such as a telephone keypad; or
(b) turn the pages of a book with either hand.

6. Making self understood through speaking, writing, typing, or other means which are normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot convey a simple message, such as the presence of a hazard.

7. Understanding communication
i) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
iii) any combination of (i) and (ii), using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of a fire escape.

8. Absence or loss of control whilst conscious leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder, other than enuresis (bed-wetting), despite the wearing or use of any aids or adaptations which are normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.
At least once a week experiences:
(a) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder; or
(b) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device sufficient to require the individual to clean themselves and change clothing.

9. Learning tasks.
Cannot learn how to complete a simple task, such as setting an alarm clock, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

10. Awareness of hazard.
Reduced awareness of everyday hazards, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, leads to a significant risk of:
(a) injury to self or others; or
(b) damage to property or possessions such that they require supervision for the majority of the time to maintain safety.

11. Initiating and completing personal action (which means planning, organisation, problem solving, prioritising or switching tasks).
Cannot, due to impaired mental function, reliably initiate or complete at least 2 sequential personal actions.

12. Coping with change.
Cannot cope with any change, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, to the extent that day to day life cannot be managed.

13. Coping with social engagement, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual.

14. Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Has, on a daily basis, uncontrollable episodes of aggressive or disinhibited behaviour that would be unreasonable in any workplace.

15. Conveying food or drink to the mouth.
(a) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving physical assistance from someone else;
(b) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s physical presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving:
(i) physical assistance from someone else; or
(ii) regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence.

16. Chewing or swallowing food or drink.
(a) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink;
(b) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to:
(i) chew or swallow food or drink; or
(ii) chew or swallow food or drink without regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence

KEYWORD SEARCH SUPPORT GROUP CRITERIA DESCRIPTORS

nannytone_2

7. Understanding communication
(i) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
iii) any combination of (i) and (ii), using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of
a fire escape.

can i ask a question.
do all or just one of the above examples in ii)need to be met?

MidnightHour

14,. Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Has, on a daily basis, uncontrollable episodes of aggressive or disinhibited behaviour that would be unreasonable in any workplace.

Mental health?, possible if you are so afraid you will catch a germ that makes you so ill you might die?

epitome

nannytone wrote: »

7. Understanding communication
i) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
iii) any combination of (i) and (ii), using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of
a fire escape.

can i ask a question.
do all or just one of the above examples in ii)need to be met?

ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone,

I don't know the answer.
I think you are asking if someone cannot read text but they can read braille would they qualify?

I have another Question,
7 appears to be written such that if someone is proufoundly deaf & cannot lip read - but they can read text- they would qualify under (i) alone
and vice versa if someone is blind who cannot read braille but they can hear and understand speech. they would qualify under (ii) alone.

Yet the RNIB website http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/yourmoney/benefits/working/pages/esa.aspx
Has this..

The second part of the test: The Limited Capability for Work-related Activity Assessment

If you pass the first part of the test, Jobcentre Plus will carry out a Limited Capability for Work-related Activity Assessment. This decides which of the two groups they will place you in: the support group or the work-related activity group.
If you have severe disabilities, you will not be required to carry out work-related activities and the DWP will place you in the support group.

• If you have combined sight loss and severe hearing loss DWP may place you in the support group.
• If you have another disability you may want to check if you meet any of the descriptors for the support group.
• If sight loss is your only disability then you may want to check if you meet any of the descriptors for this assessment. Please contact us for further advice.

What is curious about this advice is that they seem to be saying both (i) & (ii) need to be met to be sure to qualify, yet the text in 7 says (i) alone, (ii) alone or a combination (i) & (ii).


I don't think it is very clearly explained what 7 means.

Housing_Benefit_Officer

NYM wrote: »

One of the teaching assistants at our village school had a heart and lung transplant op 2 years ago.
Must admit, I thought a school would be the last place to work !

One of my workmates had a Kidney transplant and was back working within 2 weeks. She now works from home. Not one moan from her as she would probably have been dead by now. She has days and weeks of sickness but refuses to take time off work unless she is very very ill.

trenzalore_2

immunosuppressant drugs do not mean that you can not interact with lots of people. Even the older like Cyclosporine which are pretty hardcore don't make you live in a bubble.

Please don't live in fear, your brother has given you a fantastic gift, don't thow it back in his face by being too scared to go out.

eddieneil22

epitome wrote: »

Which of these do you think that comes under? or are you going for Regulation 35... would come to significant harm if not put in Support Group? In which case you will have to show why you can visit your doctor/hospital and you will need at least a letter from your doctor saying that you would be in significant danger if you went into a jobcentre or a work program environment.

Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity

Descriptors for each activity


1. Mobilising unaided by another person with or without a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such aid is normally, or could reasonably be worn or used.
Cannot either:
(a) mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion; or
(b) repeatedly mobilise 50 metres within a reasonable timescale because of significant discomfort or exhaustion.

2.Transferring from one seated position to another.
Cannot move between one seated position and another seated position located next to one another without receiving physical assistance from another person.

3. Reaching.
Cannot raise either arm as if to put something in the top pocket of a coat or jacket.

4. Picking up and moving or transferring by the use of the upper body and arms (excluding standing, sitting, bending or kneeling and all other activities specified in this Schedule).
Cannot pick up and move a 0.5 litre carton full of liquid.

5. Manual dexterity.
Cannot either:
(a) press a button, such as a telephone keypad; or
(b) turn the pages of a book with either hand.

6. Making self understood through speaking, writing, typing, or other means which
are normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot convey a simple message, such as the presence of a hazard.

7. Understanding communication
i) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
iii) any combination of (i) and (ii), using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of a fire escape.

8. Absence or loss of control whilst conscious leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder, other than enuresis (bed-wetting), despite the wearing or use of any aids or adaptations which are normally, or could reasonably be, worn or used.
At least once a week experiences:
(a) loss of control leading to extensive evacuation of the bowel and/or voiding of the bladder; or
(b) substantial leakage of the contents of a collecting device sufficient to require the individual to clean themselves and change clothing.

9. Learning tasks.
Cannot learn how to complete a simple task, such as setting an alarm clock, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

10. Awareness of hazard.
Reduced awareness of everyday hazards, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, leads to a significant risk of:
(a) injury to self or others; or
(b) damage to property or possessions such that they require supervision for the majority of the time to maintain safety.

11. Initiating and completing personal action (which means planning, organisation, problem solving, prioritising or switching tasks).
Cannot, due to impaired mental function, reliably initiate or complete at least 2 sequential personal actions.



12. Coping with change.
Cannot cope with any change, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder, to the extent that day to day life cannot be managed.

13. Coping with social engagement, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Engagement in social contact is always precluded due to difficulty relating to others or significant distress experienced by the individual.

14. Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.
Has, on a daily basis, uncontrollable episodes of aggressive or disinhibited behaviour that would be unreasonable in any workplace.

15. Conveying food or drink to the mouth.
(a) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving physical assistance from someone else;
(b) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s physical presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to convey food or drink to the claimant’s own mouth without receiving:
(i) physical assistance from someone else; or
(ii) regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence.

16. Chewing or swallowing food or drink.
(a) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink;
(b) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly stopping, experiencing breathlessness or severe discomfort;
(c) Cannot chew or swallow food or drink without repeatedly receiving regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence; or
(d) Owing to a severe disorder of mood or behaviour, fails to:
(i) chew or swallow food or drink; or
(ii) chew or swallow food or drink without regular prompting given by someone else in the claimant’s presence
thank you,when i visit the doctor/hospital i get put in a private room away from others. thank you