kidney transplant support to wrag

rogerblack

eddieneil22 wrote: »

thank you,when i visit the doctor/hospital i get put in a private room away from others. thank you

How the hospital may treat you is quite, quite irrelevant.

Have been told that you should avoid people for the sake of your health?
If, and only if this is the case, and if it is likely to cause severe health effects if you do so, do you have any hope of getting ESA support group on this ground.

Cpt.Scarlet

nannytone wrote: »

7. Understanding communication
(i) verbal means (such as hearing or lip reading) alone,
ii) non-verbal means (such as reading 16 point print or Braille) alone, or
iii) any combination of (i) and (ii), using any aid that is normally, or could reasonably be, used, unaided by another person.
Cannot understand a simple message due to sensory impairment, such as the location of
a fire escape.

can i ask a question.
do all or just one of the above examples in ii)need to be met?

If you can read 16 point print you won't qualify
If you can read Braille you won't qualify

It is only if you can't do either that you will qualify for the SG.

nannytone_2

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

If you can read 16 point print you won't qualify
If you can read Braille you won't qualify

It is only if you can't do either that you will qualify for the SG.

thats what it seems to say isnt it?

yet i was given the same information that epitome quoted ....

that if you cant read 16 point print, nor can you read braille, then you still need a second disability/health issue to get into the support group.

my reading of the text was the same as your post. i cannot read 16 point text or braille.... so should i be in the support group?
( i am quite happy to be in the WRAG and hope to find work, but am curious)

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

thats what it seems to say isnt it?

yet i was given the same information that epitome quoted ....

that if you cant read 16 point print, nor can you read braille, then you still need a second disability/health issue to get into the support group.

my reading of the text was the same as your post. i cannot read 16 point text or braille.... so should i be in the support group?
( i am quite happy to be in the WRAG and hope to find work, but am curious)

That would surely be madness as it would mean that someone who refused to learn braille would be in a better financial postion than someone who put some effort in!

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

That would surely be madness as it would mean that someone who refused to learn braille would be in a better financial postion than someone who put some effort in!

i was thinking along the same lines., but availabilty is an issue. i have looked into learning braille and the only opportunities are over an hours travelling each way, and charge.

i also dont see drug addicts and alcoholics being refused ESA for what are both, treatable issues.

being unable to read isnt the only issue around sight impaired people managing to work though. (if only it were that simple)

and yes i agre that blind people DO work, but they tend to be in managerial positions and skilled professions.
there is almost nothing available for the unskilled visually impaired person

rogerblack

nannytone wrote: »

thats what it seems to say isnt it?

yet i was given the same information that epitome quoted ....

that if you cant read 16 point print, nor can you read braille, then you still need a second disability/health issue to get into the support group.

my reading of the text was the same as your post. i cannot read 16 point text or braille.... so should i be in the support group?
( i am quite happy to be in the WRAG and hope to find work, but am curious)

To quote the WCA guide.

It should be noted that in this activity, a person must be able to understand communication through both the written and spoken word. A restriction of understanding in either of these communication modalities may result in a scoring descriptor. For example this means a person with normal hearing ability who understands the spoken word without difficulty but has visual impairment to the extent they cannot read 16 point print nor read Braille would meet Support Group criteria in this activity.

And no - you do NOT need another disability.

If you are blind (or have poor sight) and cannot read 16 point text, and cannot read Braille, then you cannot both understand spoken and written language, and you get the support group.
If you know Braille - then even though blind - you are taken as being able to 'read'.

You only need to meet one descriptor to get into the support group - and it can be any. Even 'can't put on a hat'.

nannytone_2

rogerblack wrote: »

To quote the WCA guide.
And no - you do NOT need another disability.

If you are blind (or have poor sight) and cannot read 16 point text, and cannot read Braille, then you cannot both understand spoken and written language, and you get the support group.
If you know Braille - then even though blind - you are taken as being able to 'read'.

You only need to meet one descriptor to get into the support group - and it can be any. Even 'can't put on a hat'.

they obviously dont read their own guides then

i am blind and unable to read at all ( any size type) but am in the WRAG

rogerblack

nannytone wrote: »

they obviously dont read their own guides then

i am blind and unable to read at all ( any size type) but am in the WRAG

When were you last assessed?
If it was before 28 Jan 2013 - this change had not yet come into force.

I am unsure of the procedure to get this reviewed however, and if backdating to that date is possible.

I suspect reporting a late change of circumstances of the 28th Jan - that being as of that date you became entitled to the support component would be the way to go.
This may be limited to a 3 month backdate.

I do wonder if however there are grounds for it being an official error that they did not have an appropriate procedure to review this change of circumstance reported to them by parliament that a certain number of people would now qualify.
This would remove the backdate limit.

Cpt.Scarlet

Although the descriptor was only amended in January the guidance for the 2011 version was updated some time before this following a DLA Upper Tribunal decision along similar lines, I think early 2012, which the RNIB pushed through as a test case, so ATOS and DWP should have been applying this rule for most of last year.

nannytone_2

i was originally assessed in october 2011 and placed in the WRAG. i was reassessed in august last year without a medical and kept in the WRAG.

as i have said, i am happy enough top be in this group as i would like to work.
the only issue is that i receive no help or guidance at all ( last WFI was october 2012 and was tols that there was no point as there is nothing to offer)
so being in the support group would make no difference at all to the amount of help i receive!