After the Work Programme

Nada666

AP007 wrote: »

No PC's in the 3 rooms at my old WP

They were probably busy escorting customers on toilet breaks.

AP007

Nada666 wrote: »

They were probably busy escorting customers on toilet breaks.

what the Pc's were in the loo?

imatt

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

All the talk about how the Jobcentre will manage this new regime is irrelevant because it won't be them that handle it, it'll be private concerns like A4E and G4S (the usual suspects) because most of them do have onsite toilets and are already set up for job searching.

And AP007 - no, you won't get any allowance for anything because the "centres" will be local and things like lunch etc. have to come out of your normal JSA payment.

Extra hundreds of £millions will no doubt be spent on this failure waiting to happen. Which neatly sidesteps the thorny issue of the providers asking for more cash does it not?

They're constantly asking for more taxpayer funding. Smith has said they'll get no more cash under the WP. It doesn't mean there'll be no extra cash for yet another corrupt waste of taxpayers money though.

(Ignore this post if you like as it is essentially the same as Morlock's above)

AP007

Oh yes just to add since the DWP and JC have nothing to do with the WP once the person is in the door and they have got their £400 there is no guidance to say what the WP have to do with that person at all as its up to the WP provider.

Obviously if they want more £ they would get you a job (or try you know) but its easy £ to sit back and do nothing.

We all missed a trick there - maybe a group of us should set up as a WP provider!

Morlock

AP007 wrote: »

Tax payers in the UK are deluded and do not know the amounts of ££ thrown at the WP.

It's not just billions of taxpayers' money that the providers receive either, they also suck up hundreds of millions of the European Social Fund, which could be used far more efficiently.

Morlock

imatt wrote: »

They're constantly asking for more taxpayer funding. Smith has said they'll get no more cash under the WP. It doesn't mean there'll be no extra cash for yet another corrupt waste of taxpayers money though.

Not forgetting that the money providers receive is included as part of the Welfare Budget.

Jerry_Mander

Morlock wrote: »

Yes, around £400 just for a referral from the Jobcentre before any input whatsoever.

That's no longer the case as the referral fee is tapered so it reduces (eventually to zero) each year. As they're now in the third year all new referrals will earn them nothing...they have to earn it by getting sustained job outcomes.

AP007

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

That's no longer the case as the referral fee is tapered so it reduces (eventually to zero) each year. As they're now in the third year all new referrals will earn them nothing...they have to earn it by getting sustained job outcomes.

They still must have made a small fortune by now.

Morlock

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

That's no longer the case as the referral fee is tapered so it reduces (eventually to zero) each year. As they're now in the third year all new referrals will earn them nothing...they have to earn it by getting sustained job outcomes.

It is the fourth year in which attachment fees reduce to zero, so up until April 2014 referral fees are still paid.

Morlock

AP007 wrote: »

They still must have made a small fortune by now.

According to one source, nearly half a billion pounds in referral fees alone. Not a bad result for doing nothing of significance.