After the Work Programme

mro

csmw wrote: »

An advisor doesn't sanction they simply refer to a DM, f there is no basis for said sanction one cannot be imposed. Therefore if a sanction has been imposed its because said customer has failed to do something in line with what they have agreed to.

Forced labour where??, JSA is not an entitlement you have a choice, if you do not wish to claim its simple sign off or find employment.

It is meant only to be a stop gap but far to many are treating it like some entitlement so they can sit back and put there feet up.

PWPS is there for a reason its for long term unemployed your going to have a shock when April comes and in comes daily signing and community work programme.

Just because someone is an advisor doesn't mean they have to agree with everything that the government introduces, but we do have to enforce it.

The problem with this forum is, people ask for advice an advisor gives them the correct answer and you gang up like a pack of wolves taking out your own frustrations with the jcp on them. I've watched it several times now on this forum over and over again.

People sit here all day moaning, or trying o figure out ways to do as little as possible to yet there time could be better spent elsewhere..... perhaps looking for work which is why they are getting jsa in the first place.

Hvae you ever thought why there are some !!!!!! advisors out there???/ well all you have to do is look to these forums and see what we put up with on a daily basis.

I think Jobcentres are getting the shock at how useless, ineffective & incompetent they are.

These new things in April are just more of the same failed clueless policies that will institutionalise people and stop them getting jobs.

But hey ho, what do staff in Jobcentres care.

Chester666666

Podge52 wrote: »

I work as an advisor in a contact center and put up with people being !!!!!! on a daily basis, It's not made me a !!!!!! advisor.

Unlike many jobcentre staff you know how to be polite, courteous and professional

mro

csmw wrote: »

LOL!!!!!! and providing a great example to the points I raised.

and ps ive never needed to sign on

That's weird, you suggested earlier that you knew what it was like for unemployed signing-on claiming benefits !

You clearly don't know what it's like !

csmw

Chester666666 wrote: »

You don't bother to take in what I said about why people are in forums such as these
Forced labour is another obvious phrase you claim not to understand and it's a terrible thing to claim that people have a choice as who would choose to starve or be without money so you are twisting stuff again
There's been loads of wrong sanctions as reported by the media and in various forums plus websites

I addressed it by saying when given advice from actual advisors people chose to ignore. as you just did

Where exactly are we forcing labour??????

And the media always tell the truth do they?

csmw

mro wrote: »

I think Jobcentres are getting the shock at how useless, ineffective & incompetent they are.

These new things in April are just more of the same failed clueless policies that will institutionalise people and stop them getting jobs.

But hey ho, what do staff in Jobcentres care.

and again this is what we have to put up with on a daily basis, so you can see why certain people behave in the manner they do.

Most advisors want to help but we are dammed if we do and dammed if we dont...

csmw

mro wrote: »

That's weird, you suggested earlier that you knew what it was like for unemployed signing-on claiming benefits !

You clearly don't know what it's like !

no I suggested I knew what it was like being unemployed, i never mentioned anything about signing on did I.

mro

csmw wrote: »

PWPS is there for a reason its for long term unemployed your going to have a shock when April comes and in comes daily signing and community work programme.

These 2 ideas, Daily Signing & Community Work Programme are laughable, they are the culmination in stupidity of the DWP, Jobcentres, Tory government and Iain Duncan Smith.

csmw

mro wrote: »

These 2 ideas, Daily Signing & Community Work Programme are laughable, they are the culmination in stupidity of the DWP, Jobcentres, Tory government and Iain Duncan Smith.

And do you think as advisors we are unaware of this, we know they have been introduced to p**s people off so that they sign off. But as I said before we cannot change what the government decide we have to enforce what the government of the day decides

AP007

csmw wrote: »

PWPS is there for a reason its for long term unemployed your going to have a shock when April comes and in comes daily signing and community work programme.

How the hell is daily signing going to work? They can not even stick to appointments now when you sign every 2 weeks. There are only 2 advisors signing everyone at my JC.

csmw

AP007 wrote: »

How the hell is daily signing going to work? They can not even stick to appointments now when you sign every 2 weeks. There are only 2 advisors singing everyone at my JC.

I'm assuming it will be sligtly different at each office, but it will be for 3 months.

We have around 15 signing staff at ours but i guess we must be a much larger office than the one you attend.