After the Work Programme

sensibleadvice

armyknife wrote: »

A question for 'sensibleadvice' and 'csmw', do your posting time and activities here count towards your hours of work?

Mine don't.

Chester666666

Refusal of access to UJM is sensible

When people can be sanctioned for not good enough English, attending job interviews as opposed to an appointment, hospital treatments, talking back to an adviser and using phrases that were accepted one floor lower then it's obvious that people are getting set up for sanctions or advisers are petty small invaded bullieS

csmw

sniggings wrote: »

so my point is wrong, you can not get a sanction for failing to apply for one matched vacany and evidence does have to be provided for that job's details to the claimant and the decision maker...thought not so that's unfair, my point has been made, you go on and dodge the issue about unfairness if you want, it's not me feeding my kids with money gained this way.

You see how confused you are.

Matched vacancy means the customers have been issued with the job they have been told that failure to apply for job may result in sanctions. That sanction would be referred as refusal of employment completely separate to actively seeking.

And no your not feeding your kids that way, your feeding them with taxpayers money. Who expect that in return for them doing so you follow the terms that you agreed to.

Come back when you have figured out which sanctions you are talking about!!

csmw

armyknife wrote: »

A question for 'sensibleadvice' and 'csmw', do your posting time and activities here count towards your hours of work?

:huh: LOL.......

Chester666666

You know the unemployed pay tax too?

AP007

Chester666666 wrote: »

You know the unemployed pay tax too?

I would imagine the only tax I pay at present is VAT

Chester666666

AP007 wrote: »

I would imagine the only tax I pay at present is VAT

Hence taxpayer

csmw

Chester666666 wrote: »

Hence taxpayer

But vat is paid on goods and services... and where are people on jsa getting cash to pay for goods and services.......

Oh yeah that would be from the taxpayers paying for jsa, so your comments are laughable at best.

mro

sniggings wrote: »

you said earlier in this thread, evidence of the jobs the claimant is being accused of not applying for do not have to be given, just a total number, instead of the actual details of each job.

That is unfair, which was the point being made.

How can a Decision Maker make a decision without full details of all these possible jobs, with all the requirements to show whether they are suitable ?

That can't be possible surely, that's crazy !

stix62

csmw wrote: »

But vat is paid on goods and services... and where are people on jsa getting cash to pay for goods and services.......

Oh yeah that would be from the taxpayers paying for jsa, so your comments are laughable at best.

So basically csmw, you are agreeing.
Where the cash comes from is irrelevant, the tax is still being paid.
It IS that simple, you don't need to try and twist every point that is being made.