After the Work Programme

sniggings

Podge52 wrote: »

I didn't have to do it I was just bored sh1tless sitting at home.

yeah same here, I enjoyed going to be honest, got me a free bus ticket for the day, came in handy and free tea and coffee, I don't think I would have minded if they sent for "work expereince" either.

Jerry_Mander

csmw wrote: »

They should really be sticking reasonably within your guideline but, i. you say you can only work 10am till 2pm if they found a job that was say 9.30 till 2.30 you could be matched to it yes. but they couldn't match you to a 9 till 5.

You see this is where the problems start with advisers. What you have said is wrong; the hours on the JSAg are binding and the adviser cannot mandate a claimant to apply for a job outside those hours.

This is a case where you would attempt to (wrongly) sanction that claimant because they refuse to apply for the job.

You see how easy it is for an adviser who is unaware of the regulations to abuse the system?

Jerry_Mander

iammumtoone wrote: »

If that part is now irrevalavnt I am now worried that my hours will become irrevalavnt and I will not be informed of that fact!

Your hours are as stated on the JSAg. If they want to change them they have to redo your JSAg and of course you'd be there for that, so don't worry.

csmw

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

You see this is where the problems start with advisers. What you have said is wrong; the hours on the JSAg are binding and the adviser cannot mandate a claimant to apply for a job outside those hours.

This is a case where you would attempt to (wrongly) sanction that claimant because they refuse to apply for the job.

You see how easy it is for an adviser who is unaware of the regulations to abuse the system?

Erm I think you'll find I'm correct. When I am a computer I'll try and post a link to guidance

Jerry_Mander

csmw wrote: »

They should be telling people, but I'm sure it says something along those lines on the front or back of the jsag.

It says it on the new claimaint commitment.

If your a lone parent the hours will only become irrelevant when your youngest child reaches 13, then you will be required to look for full time work

Nowhere on the JSAg or the CC does it say that you have to look for or accept work outside the agreed hours. This is what I find worrying about advisers, they don't know the regulations but apply their version of them instead! :mad:

Jerry_Mander

csmw wrote: »

Erm I think you'll find I'm correct. When I am a computer I'll try and post a link to guidance

Just make sure you have a large slice of humble pie at the ready as well.

csmw

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

Nowhere on the JSAg or the CC does it say that you have to look for or accept work outside the agreed hours. This is what I find worrying about advisers, they don't know the regulations but apply their version of them instead! :mad:

We the comments you quoted was in reference to types of work a customer should apply for, so pipe down

Jerry_Mander

csmw wrote: »

We the comments you quoted was in reference to types of work a customer should apply for, so pipe down

There's the real adviser attitude showing itself! :rotfl:

red_devil

My advisor is incompetent, he handed me someone elses job agreement.

donnajunkie

mro wrote: »

Unlikely as advisors don't read any of this or ask for it, unless maybe thay want to catch someone out.

Would also become a massive burden & time consuming with people printing off masses of pointless paper & accessing different websites if they can.

Most sensible experienced advisors have learnt it's a waste of time, when they're meant to be helping people get a job.

i agree, its only the adviser here and the adviser in charge of the session i did that have said they would ask for such evidence. if it became the norm it would soon be reversed when they see what it costs them in paper and ink. they couldnt catch people out with it because if they send it to a decision maker that in their opinion you havent done as required then all you would have to do is organise printing off what you have done and send it with your appeal form.