After the Work Programme

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

many agency jobs can be applied for useing the button and are recorded in application activity. they dont all take you to a third party website.
yes it is possible to jobsearch without being registered but some jobs with an apply button require you to be registered to apply for them.

Show me an accounts or admin job in London that's advertised by an agency that allows you to apply on the UJM site?

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

no, but you arent restricting yourself to just applying for working in accounts. you seem to be trying to say there are no jobs that can be applied for that way. that simply isnt true. like i said i manage to find 1 or 2 everyday. i dont spend all day and night searching like you do either.

I can assure you I do not spend all day and all night on the UJM at all and have never said I have

No they were examples I gave you at random like you have surely given us too?

Ok lets look at retail or admin

this one email cv so not on the site
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4734675&JobTitle=Office+Manager&q=admin&where=se12sz&rad=10&rad_units=miles&pp=25&sort=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=3&setype=2&tm=1&AVSDM=2013-11-25T10%3a53%3a00-05%3a00

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4761114&JobTitle=PA&q=admin&where=se12sz&rad=10&rad_units=miles&pp=25&sort=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=3&setype=2&tm=1&AVSDM=2013-11-24T07%3a51%3a00-05%3a00 takes you to

http://www.cv-library.co.uk/cgi-bin/view-job.cgi?id=200459045&s=100071

and then there is
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4756956&JobTitle=Store+Manager&q=retail&where=se12sz&rad=10&rad_units=miles&pp=25&sort=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=134&setype=2&tm=1&AVSDM=2013-11-24T06%3a15%3a00-05%3a00
takes you here
http://www.cv-library.co.uk/cgi-bin/view-job.cgi?id=200461697&s=100071

or https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4777801&JobTitle=Assistant+Manager%2c+New+Malden&q=retail&where=se12sz&rad=10&rad_units=miles&pp=25&sort=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=134&setype=2&tm=1&AVSDM=2013-11-25T02%3a20%3a00-05%3a00 apply by email

You would have to spend ages looking for one that's on the UJM itself.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

heres one with an apply button that does as i say.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4676162&JobTitle=Machine+operator&pp=25&pg=1&q=4676162&sort=rv.dt.di&re=134&AVSDM=2013-11-18T05%3a32%3a00-05%3a00

AP007 wrote: »

that's not an accounts job though is it?

donnajunkie wrote: »

no, but you arent restricting yourself to just applying for working in accounts. you seem to be trying to say there are no jobs that can be applied for that way. that simply isnt true. like i said i manage to find 1 or 2 everyday. i dont spend all day and night searching like you do either.

You showed me a job for Machine operator so are you restricting yourself too. What about retail and admin or accounts for you?

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Show me an accounts or admin job in London that's advertised by an agency that allows you to apply on the UJM site?

i cant be bothered to look. its upto you what you do. it may require a slightly dishonest strategy to ensure you have jobs applied for listed in the application history. i sometimes apply for a job thats over 30 miles away to ensure i am seen to do what is required of me.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

You showed me a job for Machine operator so are you restricting yourself too. What about retail and admin or accounts for you?

i gave you that one as an example because i had been looking at it 10 minutes earlier and therefore it was easily accessable to me.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

i cant be bothered to look. its upto you what you do. it may require a slightly dishonest strategy to ensure you have jobs applied for listed in the application history. i sometimes apply for a job thats over 30 miles away to ensure i am seen to do what is required of me.

I am stating facts here that there are none I have found so far admin, retail or accounts that apply via UJM. You keep saying you find lots I just wondered where they are then.

I don't need to apply to any job that's via the UJM I am trying to prove a point - a point that a lot are missing here.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

I am stating facts here that there are none I have found so far admin, retail or accounts that apply via UJM. You keep saying you find lots I just wondered where they are then.

I don't need to apply to any job that's via the UJM I am trying to prove a point - a point that a lot are missing here.

i am not saying you arent telling the truth. i am simply pointing out 2 things. 1. i manage to find enough. 2. you are very unlucky to not find any at all.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

i am not saying you arent telling the truth. i am simply pointing out 2 things. 1. i manage to find enough. 2. you are very unlucky to not find any at all.

Look for Admin and accounts and you will see and if I look for low skilled manual I bet I find lots. There is the difference I think.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Look for Admin and accounts and you will see and if I look for low skilled manual I bet I find lots. There is the difference I think.

i searched while not logged in as if i click on apply while logged in i would end up applying for an obviously unsuitable job. this one seems to be ok. well when i clicked on the apply button it didnt take me to a third party website. it asked me to log in. it is too far away for you but it was top of the list when i searched accountancy.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4783402&JobTitle=Accountant&rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&occ=1&AVSDM=2013-11-25+19%3a30%3a00

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

i searched while not logged in as if i click on apply while logged in i would end up applying for an obviously unsuitable job. this one seems to be ok. well when i clicked on the apply button it didnt take me to a third party website. it asked me to log in. it is too far away for you but it was top of the list when i searched accountancy.

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=4783402&JobTitle=Accountant&rad_units=miles&brd=6978%2c6985%2c6988&pp=25&vw=b&setype=1&seswitch=1&occ=1&AVSDM=2013-11-25+19%3a30%3a00

How would you apply by just clicking apply? I have clicked on a lot of jobs and not applied for them.

That one anyway is not in London and I am not an Accountant.