UK needs +7 Million immigrants to keep debt down

Sampong

kabayiri wrote: »

It's okay Hamish, we have to have some luddites here, to balance things out

I imagine people were similarly opposed to the automobile, and similar new fangled horseless contraptions.

And there we have it folks. When the left have no argument -they resort to insults.

mEwbie

Sampong wrote: »

And there we have it folks. When the left have no argument -they resort to insults.

What do the right resort to?

kabayiri

Quality not quantity, is a good mantra to adopt, when it comes to immigration.

Imagine how much wealth a Steve Jobs would attract, never mind the inspirational effect it would have on the young.

mEwbie

I'm not sure he'd attract much more than flies nowadays.

kabayiri

mEwbie wrote: »

I'm not sure he'd attract much more than flies nowadays.

How important leaving the word "type" out becomes

mEwbie

kabayiri wrote: »

How important leaving the word "type" out becomes

It was poor taste from me on a board such as this.

kabayiri

The problem with mass immigration for me is process as much as concept.

Ideally, you would beef up infrastructure then bring in people. Doing it the other way round leads to chaotic situations.

A friend teaches in a typical inner Manchester school. They have 11 new Ethiopian children. The problem is that the school was not geared up regards translation needs.

It's great if you are a translator, on £44 an hour, brought in at short notice however.

These sort of costs rarely get factored in by the pro lobby.

CLAPTON

We have forecasts that are telling us how things will be in 30-40 years time


Apart from Hamish, who forecast the current situation in the 1970/80s?

Who got the banking crisis right?

who got japan and germany would abondon nuclear power because of an earthquake?

who got the fracking right that is transforming the energy power scene and making USA a major manufacturing power again

who predicted the massive immigration into the UK ?


except Hamish of course

Linda_D_2

Only another 100 million immigrants can save this country.

John_Pierpoint

nickj wrote: »

inevitably those 7 million will need looking after and paying for once they reach old age , what will happen then ? will we then need 20 million to look after their needs < or will we treat them like an obsolete games console , once they've served their purpose put them on the scrap heap

There has been a fairly massive immigration movement over a period of a couple of centuries. After the USA war of independence, the British Isles could no longer export from the lowest decile of their unwanted population across the Atlantic and had to resort to shipping them on mass to the Australian continent.
One of the major reasons for abandoning the project, and replacing it with the export of orphans and £10 volunteers, was the cost of supporting the ex cons in their old age.
It was in places like Tasmania, where the population was as high as 1/3 rd ex con migrant, that this forerunner of families no longer being available to support the old folks, became most acute.

I wonder if we are actually debating the collapse of family & community structure in the native population, rather than the need to import migrants and pay them to take on family responsibilities at minimum wage, plus all their welfare state entitlements.