Fencing - Question in regards to border

darkcloudi

I am in the process of wantig to fix a fence at the rear of my back garden. At the back there is a garage, this wall belongs to the person who lives at the back of me, originally there was a fence which the neighbour not long ago broke. Picture as it was before.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9783/vav.JPG

Now with the fence gone there is no privacy between my garden and the person behind.

The issue I have is i'm assuming since the brick wall belongs to the neighbour I cannot drill a fence post to it? My understanding is that I cannot but I just went to one of the local building merchants where they suggested if its on the border its fine to do. However I feel this is wrong, and don't want to risk drilling in to someone elses wall.

Just to note i did ask the person behind if I can fix the fence and he advised I cannot touch his wall. He was a little weired as he did cut my tree branches without my permission that over hung his garden and the bits that were over mine (This originally provided the privacy between the 2 gardens). I never argued about this and stayed quiet so there was no dispute with this person or ever was. Also i got a feeling his since moved in the last couple of weeks although even if they did I don't believe I have any rights to fix the fence to the wall without the owners permission.

Was thinking of digging a new post in to my side of the garden but as you can see I have some trees but do have some room to put it in although its the roots that concern me as not sure how far the roots are gone so it would be easier to put a post on to the wall. Any advise how I would go about getting a fence up? The wall is 5 ft high so need at least a 12 ft post to stack 2 panels to cover the brick wall and provide the privacy that I require.

Thanks

smashingyour...

Well without his permission you can't drill into his wall. He was within his right to trim back the trees too.

darkcloudi

smashingyour... wrote: »

Well without his permission you can't drill into his wall. He was within his right to trim back the trees too.

Which I fully agree with, although didn't agree for him to trim my entire tree as now its a tree with no branches Although as I said not to fussed about the tree, would have been nice if he had not broken the fence before he left as the branches originally provided the privacy and these brances were on my side which he replaced with a fence.

Did try to comprimise and asked him if I can fix the fence and it was a straight no.

Guess I was right to say I cannot touch his wall, which means I got to somehow get a post down in to my garden. Anyone know a good and easy way to dig a post in as I got a feeling I may come across a root.

smashingyour...

darkcloudi wrote: »

Which I fully agree with, although didn't agree for him to trim my entire tree as now its a tree with no branches Although as I said not to fussed about the tree, would have been nice if he had not broken the fence before he left as the branches originally provided the privacy and these brances were on my side which he replaced with a fence.

Did try to comprimise and asked him if I can fix the fence and it was a straight no.

Guess I was right to say I cannot touch his wall, which means I got to somehow get a post down in to my garden. Anyone know a good and easy way to dig a post in as I got a feeling I may come across a root.

So he cut his trees and yours that were overhanging?

What's your problem with that?

Anyway, the issue with the post. Get a spade and start digging. Deal with any roots you find. Its not rocket science.

Or get someone in.

Leif

smashingyour... wrote: »

So he cut his trees and yours that were overhanging?

What's your problem with that?

Anyway, the issue with the post. Get a spade and start digging. Deal with any roots you find. Its not rocket science.

Or get someone in.

"he did cut my tree branches without my permission that over hung his garden and the bits that were over mine"

The neighbour is not entitled to trim branches NOT overhanging his garden.

Who is responsible for the boundary? Is the wall a boundary wall, or is your fence a boundary fence?

darkcloudi

Leif wrote: »

Who is responsible for the boundary? Is the wall a boundary wall, or is your fence a boundary fence?

Prior to me buying the property over 6 years ago, the garage was there so will assume this is the boundary wall. The fence as pictured belongs to the guy behind me, he put this in place as his dog was jumping in to my garden as the dog was finding his way through the gap of my tree branches (he chopped these branches without my permission ).

My trees as you see from the photo had a lot more branches but this has since been removed by the neighbour and was replaced with a fence. Althoug now this fence has been removed by the neighbour (personally felt this was strange behviour as not sure the reason for removing it), I wanted to fix the fence at my expense but he clearly told me i'm not allowed to attach a post to his wall, which I haven't got an issue with. (Would have liked it if he had left the fence as now that his removed it there is no privacy and before there was with my trees)

So wanted advise on how I can get a new fence up, happy to put the fence on my side which runs alongside his brick wall but concerned about the roots so not sure how deep i can dig. Sounds like it i just need to start digging and see how bad the roots are.

keystone

For one thing you can stop thinking about a hole requiring a 12 foot post unless you want to go the PP route. You can erect fences without PP up to 2 metres no more. If that is a garage then plainly his land lies somehat below yours. Don't see the privacy angle unless you are talking about the view from his bedroom?

Personally I'd just dig tbh and see what you find.

Cheers

Stooby2

If you don't want to dig, you could use a Metpost - just hammer it into the ground. For that short bit of fence sheltered by the garage wall they should suffice.

http://www.metpost.co.uk

darkcloudi

keystone wrote: »

Don't see the privacy angle unless you are talking about the view from his bedroom?

Personally I'd just dig tbh and see what you find.

Cheers

The neighbour behind me is on higher grounds so can stand on top of his garage roof and be a noisy neighbour which is the reason for wanting to get a 12 foot post (2 feet in to the ground, 5 feet to cover the garage and then a further 5 feet to stop him looking in to my living room whilst watching tele.) I would need to stack two fence panels together to cover the amount i require. As you will see from my first post which has a link to a photo uploaded to image shack, the fence was there to stop his dog jumping over but also helped in the privacy, although he still peeped from the right side of the photo that is uploaded as there was only meshing there.

So now that the fence is gone he just stands on top of the garage and looks through. So what I want to do is a proper job and cover it.

Trust me the guy is very strange Although haven't seen him for a while and think he may have left since house appears vacant. Want to get this done before someone else moves in and starts peeping in to my home.

Going to start digging and see what I can find as thats probably the best thing to do and see if I hit any roots.

darkcloudi

Stooby2 wrote: »

If you don't want to dig, you could use a Metpost - just hammer it into the ground. For that short bit of fence sheltered by the garage wall they should suffice.

http://www.metpost.co.uk

Looks good, was thinking of getting one of these.

Just noticed they have a Met Post extender, which is exactly what I need. Thanks mate

smashingyour...

You've already been told, you can't put a 10 foot fence up without planning permission.