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Landlord entered property for purpose other than we gave permission for

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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    edited 20 July 2013 at 1:12AM
    Toad wrote: »
    That link says * The landlord must give the tenant two full Tenancy Period’s notice via a valid S21 Notice (see A3 above for invalid S21).
    And our contract states that we must give 1 month notice from the anniversary of the contract.
    How can that not be 2 months from the LL and 1 from us, when we're on a monthly rolling contract? surely '2 periods' is '2 months'?
    Read the example provided.
    If you serve notice on exactly the right day, notice will be 1 month.
    If you serve notice a day later, notice will be 1month + 1 day.
    If you serve notice 2 days later, notice will be 1month + 2 days.
    etc
    So it could be almost 2 months if you mis-time it.

    Saying that notice is one month implies one calender month from whatever day you serve, which is NOT the case.


    * We cannot change the locks, according to the contract. "The tennant will not change any of the locks of the property or have any duplicate keys made".
    Ignore this clause. The only way the LL could enforce it would be to get a court order.
    a) he would not go to court and
    b) once you explained to the judge why you changed the lock, the judge would not grant a court order

    Keep the old lock and replace it when you leave

    (takes 5 minutes - see here)

    * The electrician who made the initial repair when we kept losing power explained that as we had 2 radials and on of these served an area that included a double oven and grill, dish washer, kettle, pretty much all the high consuming items in the house, and we therefore had a reasonable expectation to overload the circuit during normal use - a full inspection was suggested but declined
    As I understand, the potential was to cause a fire as the cables in the walls (as far as I saw when he was working on them, with no conduit) would overheat.
    You'll need a sparkie to comment.

    Ask here.

    You'll also need the written report (assuming you want to enforce eg via Environmental Health Dept)

    You would also need proof the work was not done- you could write to the LL asking for a copy of the contractor's receipt.

    But ifyou are leaving anyway.....
  • AndyPK
    AndyPK Posts: 4,372 Forumite
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    Well if it were me I would do two things.

    A look on the Internet for houses for sale and see if u can see.your home on there. And monitor price etc.

    B. start keeping an eye out for another place to live.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,651 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »

    If you serve notice on exactly the right day, notice will be 1 month.
    If you serve notice a day later, notice will be 1month + 1 day.

    If you serve notice a day earlier, notice will be 1month + 1 day.
    If you serve notice a day later, notice will be 2months - 1 day.
  • ognum
    ognum Posts: 4,879 Forumite
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    Toad wrote: »
    Too right, we'll change the code on the alarm and ask the neighbours to phone the police if the alarm is going and they see anybody in the house when we're not home!

    You would be better to change the locks.

    I have properties with alarms, I issue the tenants with a code but also have a master code myself that they do not know. Both codes give access to the house. I keep my code because often tenants change the code and I don't know it when they leave.

    Please note I would not access my tenants homes without permission and them being there, although I have at their request.
  • G_M, you missed the part where I said "when I am not there"

    Unless there is a dire emergency then that is the bottom line
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • benjus
    benjus Posts: 5,433 Forumite
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    G_M, you missed the part where I said "when I am not there"

    Unless there is a dire emergency then that is the bottom line

    What's the relevance of that?

    G_M's point was that there is a big difference between the following two things:
    • Explicitly telling your landlord that they do not have permission to enter
    • Not granting them permission to enter, but not denying it either (e.g. not saying anything on the subject)
    Let's settle this like gentlemen: armed with heavy sticks
    On a rotating plate, with spikes like Flash Gordon
    And you're Peter Duncan; I gave you fair warning
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    anselld wrote: »
    If you serve notice a day earlier, notice will be 1month + 1 day.
    If you serve notice a day later, notice will be 2months - 1 day.
    Thanks! :T

    My mistake. But the principle is the same.

    The OP (and other tenants) should not think in terms of "one months notice".
  • Toad
    Toad Posts: 80 Forumite
    G_M wrote: »
    Thanks! :T

    My mistake. But the principle is the same.

    The OP (and other tenants) should not think in terms of "one months notice".

    Indeed, I meant to say 'one month on the date of the contract anniversary'. Which of course, I meant, but didn't actually say.
    My wife gets away with that? Will you let me off this once? :)

    Regarding the alarm and master codes. We fitted this wireless alarm ourselves so we know the model and that there is no master code on it :)

    Application was submitted this evening for another house, so fingers crossed the landlord chooses us from the pool of applicants.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    You are not happy with your Landlord and the electrics maybe unsafe.
    Fires in the kitchen are the number one cause of fires in homes in the UK so fit a smoke alarm in the Kitchen,hall, top of stairs if not already fitted ?
  • benjus wrote: »
    What's the relevance of that?

    G_M's point was that there is a big difference between the following two things:
    • Explicitly telling your landlord that they do not have permission to enter
    • Not granting them permission to enter, but not denying it either (e.g. not saying anything on the subject)



    Yes of course it was BUT why was it directed at me when I KNOW that, it's the very basics isn't it
    :rotfl:
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

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