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'Guide Price' advice please...

Looking through property listings and plenty of houses are listed as 'guide price' £150k - £165k (example)

Does this mean its not worth a view if my budget was under £150k? Would an estate be difficult to negotiate or accept an offer below the guide?

If you are selling with a guide, what are your expectations? (Offers need to be within the guide etc??)
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  • Mobeer
    Mobeer Posts: 1,851 Forumite
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    All prices are "guide prices" until contracts are exchanged.
  • thelem
    thelem Posts: 774 Forumite
    It will vary depending on the vendor - I've heard people say that the higher prices is what the vendor thinks it should be on for, but the lower is what the estate agent thinks it should be on for.

    You might get an offer below the lower price accepted, but it'll be harder than if they had just marketed it at the lower price.
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  • nikanika0
    nikanika0 Posts: 160 Forumite
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    Our neighbour's house has been sold for £165k, it was advertised as guide price £160k- 180k.
  • ging84
    ging84 Posts: 912 Forumite
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    the sellers have given a clear intent to not sell for lower than a certain figure
    if you clearly would/could not offer that figure before you've even seen the property then there is very little chance of you doing a deal.
    Unless you think it's still maybe a little overvalued, you can't afford it. If you are not struggling to find suitable properties in your budget avoid the disappointment and keep looking at ones you can afford
  • Duskylady
    Duskylady Posts: 80 Forumite
    If you think you might like the house I'd go see it and offer if you like. You never know what the vendors are thinking so you might as well try. The worst someone can say is no.
  • I_have_spoken
    I_have_spoken Posts: 5,051 Forumite
    IMHO, an initial offer 10% under guide is perfectly OK.

    There's obviously the 'dead zones' just above tax thresholds were sellers (unless idiots) expect offers just under the tax limit.

    In the current market 'fixed price', 'offers over' etc. mean nothing
  • Smith_007
    Smith_007 Posts: 109 Forumite
    ging84 wrote: »
    the sellers have given a clear intent to not sell for lower than a certain figure

    But the market may dictate otherwise ;)

    ging84 wrote: »
    if you clearly would/could not offer that figure before you've even seen the property then there is very little chance of you doing a deal.

    RUBBISH !

    No matter how an EA words their pricing, the answer is always the same: If your first offer doesn’t insult the vendor, it was too high :D. It isn't a sellers market anymore (some regions excepted).


    As for a guide price of £150k - £165k ?
    Depending on the property / area etc......
    I'd maybe go in at £137k with a view to spending £150k as an absolute maximum. In giving a guide price, the vendors have already revealed the minimum price they will comfortably accept. You would be a fool to offer more than this. :D
    Back off man, I'm a scientist. ;)

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  • kwmlondon
    kwmlondon Posts: 1,734 Forumite
    Smith_007 wrote: »
    But the market may dictate otherwise ;)
    No matter how an EA words their pricing, the answer is always the same: If your first offer doesn’t insult the vendor, it was too high :D. It isn't a sellers market anymore (some regions excepted).


    As for a guide price of £150k - £165k ?
    Depending on the property / area etc......
    I'd maybe go in at £137k with a view to spending £150k as an absolute maximum. In giving a guide price, the vendors have already revealed the minimum price they will comfortably accept. You would be a fool to offer more than this. :D

    Not bad advice, but in some parts of the country you will find that offering the asking price will not secure you the property - you will find yourself in a bidding war very quickly.

    My sister is in Maidenhead and they've been to see a couple of places, speculatively. By the time they'd phoned up the estate agent to discuss the property they were told that the property had sold for more than the asking price and would they like to put a higher offer in.

    Yes - it's a bubble, but do your homework and know the market. You can see what places have been going for with online tools - mouseprice is pretty good.
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
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    kwmlondon wrote: »
    Not bad advice, but in some parts of the country you will find that offering the asking price will not secure you the property - you will find yourself in a bidding war very quickly.

    My sister is in Maidenhead and they've been to see a couple of places, speculatively. By the time they'd phoned up the estate agent to discuss the property they were told that the property had sold for more than the asking price and would they like to put a higher offer in.

    Yes - it's a bubble, but do your homework and know the market. You can see what places have been going for with online tools - mouseprice is pretty good.


    ^^yeah this.

    It is almost entirely dependent on the local market.

    I doubt after e.g. a week on the market a vendor will be willing to go low, but one whose house has been hanging around for a while will be likely to be more flexible. Use property bee (mozilla) or Property Tracker (Chrome) to evaluate dates, any previous price changes etc

    You just have to view , sound out the EA, do the research and then make an appropriate offer.
  • ndf9876
    ndf9876 Posts: 404 Forumite
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    I personally found a lot of guff in some property listings : OIEO, Fixed Price, OIRO. To me, it was meaningless. Friend of mine bought his property recently, advertised as "Fixed Price" for £15k less than aforementioned "Fixed Price". My offer was accepted on a property with a "Guide Price" of £265-£285k and I can tell you my offer was much lower.

    The bottom line is, if it's within your ballpark budget range, I'd go and have a look if it were me.

    Having said that, we looked at a property with an asking price of £265k and the vendor wanted the asking price or nothing, no movement. We shrugged and walked away - the property is still on the market. As with anything, your experiences may vary, but I'd say there's no harm in at least having a look.
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