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council tax exemption?

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  • K.Tarshes
    K.Tarshes Posts: 45 Forumite
    I have an empty house currently for sale. The local council there offer no deductions for an empty and unfurnished house, and after 24 months the council tax would be 150% or one and a half times the normal rate.

    What impact will this have on the property market? There are said to be over a million empty properties in the UK.

    With these changes a high percentage of these will most certainly be occupied one way or another to reduce the council tax to only 100% from 150%.

    Many will be sold sometimes for a reduced rate for a quick sale.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    edited 13 July 2013 at 7:54PM
    So are you saying there will be some properties that will still be exempt from council tax even after the changes of April this year?
    Only 2 types of exemptions have been removed - there are others that can still apply in certain circumstances for unoccupied properties. All exemptions for occupied properties have remained unchanged.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    With these changes a high percentage of these will most certainly be occupied one way or another to reduce the council tax to only 100% from 150%.

    Lets just say that there an awful lot of 'bogus occupancies' being tried and a lot of people finding out the hard way that they should have kept the council's up to date with what's been happening to their properties.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    One would hope so BUT
    Lenders are not lending and Investors need to borrow money to buy run down properties and also need to borrow to refurbish properties before they can rent or sell.
    The housing market has changed big style over the last few years and many Landlords will struggle to sell
  • witchy1066
    witchy1066 Posts: 640 Forumite
    if one owns an empty property why shouldn't they pay council tax ?

    the tax is on the property not the person, and if that property has been left derelict and thus becoming un-habitable the owner should pay more council tax or sell it,

    there is nothing worse than going to view a lovely house and the house next door has been left in a horrid state , it should be a criminal offence to allow property to get into an un-habitable state
  • K.Tarshes
    K.Tarshes Posts: 45 Forumite
    If such a dwelling still has a CT band then the owner can apply to the VOA to have the band removed, there is no 6 month time limit on this type of application. The VOA may or may not agree and the case can be determined by the Valuation Tribunal.

    One downside is that once the dwelling is deemed fit for re-assessment for CT it may perfectly legally end up with a higher CT band than previously.

    The council are obliged to bill the occupier of if unoccupied, the owner of any dwelling in its area which has a CT band, subject to any reliefs or exemptions which may apply.

    So how is it possible now after the April 13 changes to get CT exemption for a derelict property?
  • K.Tarshes
    K.Tarshes Posts: 45 Forumite
    CIS wrote: »
    Only 2 types of exemptions have been removed - there are others that can still apply in certain circumstances for unoccupied properties. All exemptions for occupied properties have remained unchanged.

    What are the 2 please?

    I know there are exemptions for properties for ministers of religion or people looking after old folks or carers and things like that. But I should have titled this thread exemptions for derelict properties.

    Could we keep this thread only about exemptions for derelict properties. If indeed there are any after the changes in April?

    So if there are no special circumstances that would exempt the property (like carer or something) but it has been derelict for a long time, is it a case of suddenly not being exempt anymore after this change? When it was exempt for long time before the change?
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,653 Forumite
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    K.Tarshes wrote: »

    So if there are no special circumstances that would exempt the property (like carer or something) but it has been derelict for a long time, is it a case of suddenly not being exempt anymore after this change? When it was exempt for long time before the change?

    You don't seem to have understood lincroft's previous answer.

    If a property has been removed from the CT valuation list then no tax will be due. It does not need any exemption because it is not on the list.
  • K.Tarshes
    K.Tarshes Posts: 45 Forumite
    anselld wrote: »
    You don't seem to have understood lincroft's previous answer.

    If a property has been removed from the CT valuation list then no tax will be due. It does not need any exemption because it is not on the list.

    I don't think you understand that has all changed from April this year.

    Now every single property in the UK even a pile of centuries old bricks will come back on to the CT valuation list.

    Some can get a discount and in a few cases 100% discount. But some will get no discount and will pay 150% CT until they get it done up and occupied so it goes down to only 100%CT.
    CIS wrote: »
    The regulations have been amended and the Class A exemption no longer exists from 1 April 13 - it has been replaced with the Class D discount (although the criteria haven't changed most councils no longer give a 100% reduction):

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/2964/regulation/2/made#text%3D%22council%20tax%22%20and%20%22habitable%22
  • whalster
    whalster Posts: 397 Forumite
    Except for housing association houses that still get six months ! This is because they have been crafty enough to register as a charity .this is not fair as council housing and housing associations have tens of thousands of empty properties
    Level playing field please
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