New Look jeans have stained my new sofa!

missmococo

Fosterdog wrote: »

I hardly think sarcasm towards the people trying to help you is going to get you very far, you may not like what people are telling you but it is fair to say that so far it has been established that it is a commonly known problem.

Most furniture retailers do warn you when you purchase a light item. Most of the light furniture items also carry a warning label.
Most jeans/dark items of clothing/cushions/throws also carry a warning label.
A lot of people just know about it through past experience/common sense.

It seems highly unlikely that you have managed to find a retailer who didn't tell you, then the sofa not having a warning label, then to have jeans without a label. It's more likely that at least one of them has had a warning and it has been removed without being read.

My sarcasm isn't directed at anyone who IS trying to help me and just posting sweeping statements designed to mock, or call into question my honesty isn't helping matters in the least so I reserve the right to be just as sarcastic back in those cases.

Take your reply:

"It seems highly unlikely that you have managed to find a retailer who didn't tell you". There was no advice from a retailer as sofa was purchased online. So whilst you may have thought it "highly unlikely", that was the case here.

"then the sofa not having a warning label" - the sofa is supposed to come with a label saying not to wear clothing that has been dyed? I haven't seen such a label when I put the sofa together and no labels have been removed.

"It's more likely that at least one of them has had a warning and it has been removed without being read." - Ah the "likely" defence again. Well, I've explained it here and in my original post re what the label that came with the jeans said/did not say.

I don't have any past experience with jeans and stains/dye leakage personally and assumed that the problem occurs only when in the wash for the first few times (as that is what the label says) - not when the item is dry.

I find it rather stumping that so many posters are questioning my honesty (as in yourself) rather than offering CONSUMER ADVICE which is why I came on this board and joined this forum.

I just don't understand why people are on these boards if not to offer advice. If you can't say anything helpful, why say anything at all? What do you get out of berating someone you don't know? And why all the assumptions that I'm lying; what would be the point of deliberately staining my sofa if I knew about the whole jeans/dye issue and then coming on here to be blasted for my stupidity (obviously none of the posters who have mentioned "common sense" or my personal favourite, "everybody knows", have ever made a mistake in their lives).

And to be fair least you think I'm being sarcastic to you, I'm not, but I do point out that you haven't offered any advice either.

jacques_chirac

You are being way too sensitive. No one has berated you, they have simply pointed out that a reasonable person would have known not to wear new jeans on a light coloured sofa. You do not have any rights because the law considers what a reasonable person would know/ do, which is layman's terms could be termed 'common sense'.

(Before you start stressing again, I am not suggesting you are unreasonable - the 'reasonable person' term refers to what most people would do.)

somethingcorporate

Does it say on trainers "do not wear muddy trainers on light sofas"?

No, because it is just common sense.

This is the same, get a decent cleaner in to sort your problem.

missmococo

somethingcorporate wrote: »

Does it say on trainers "do not wear muddy trainers on light sofas"?

No, because it is just common sense.

This is the same, get a decent cleaner in to sort your problem.

Not really a sensible parallel as muddy trainers would obviously stain. A dry pair of jeans, not so much.

Let me ask this, by everyone's common sense logic, does this mean none of you sit on light sofas in dark trousers or skirts unless you've washed them a few times first? This is a genuine question.

jacques_chirac

missmococo wrote: »

Not really a sensible parallel as muddy trainers would obviously stain. A dry pair of jeans, not so much.

Let me ask this, by everyone's common sense logic, does this mean none of you sit on light sofas in dark trousers or skirts?

I have some aubergine linen trousers that I wouldn't chance it with, but not normal work trousers. It tends to be obvious (to me at least) which are likely to transfer the dye or not.

Sparhawke

missmococo wrote: »

Great for you and your daughter then, unfortunately, no furniture salesman warned me.

Should they also warn you about decorating your walls with paint, using glue when playing with your kids at crafts, eating your dinner in case you drop your knife or fork and puncture it?

The way i see it is that they cannot warn of every eventuality; dye transfer is a well known problem, why didn't the jeans salesperson warn you about dye transfer on your absolute specific sofa?

missmococo wrote: »

Not really a sensible parallel as muddy trainers would obviously stain. A dry pair of jeans, not so much.

Let me ask this, by everyone's common sense logic, does this mean none of you sit on light sofas in dark trousers or skirts unless you've washed them a few times first? This is a genuine question.

Heat, sweat and friction...a triumvirate of disaster.

Anyways, how to clean it, and avoid the problem in the future
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_6345065_remove-jean-dye-white-leather.html

Fosterdog

missmococo wrote: »

Not really a sensible parallel as muddy trainers would obviously stain. A dry pair of jeans, not so much.

Let me ask this, by everyone's common sense logic, does this mean none of you sit on light sofas in dark trousers or skirts unless you've washed them a few times first? This is a genuine question.

I deliberately chose a darker sofa because of such issues, I also wouldn't sit on my brother in laws cream sofa when I wore new jeans to their house and chose to sit on a dining chair instead (dark coverings).

I would 100% genuinely avoid sitting on light furnishings when wearing very new, dark clothing in peoples homes. I will admit that I wouldn't be bothered if I was out somewhere public purely because it's not sensible to have light furnishings that will have lots of use from many different people.

I've never needed any warnings but discovered as a teenager that I stained my bedroom wall with new jeans after laying on my bed resting my knees against the wall while reading, it's been something I've been careful of since.

GwylimT

Well of course dyes transfer, that is why we don't wash our dark jeans with with white shirts, I don't wear new jeans on our sofa (cream material) until they have been washed a few times as the dye will transfer onto other fabrics (and sometimes your skin).

tinkerbell28

Dye transfer is a common problem. I'm looking at a warning label now on a pair of jeans warning of dye transfer.

Oh and sitting on stuff, no I don't. I still use a blanket under me now on my car seat. Not long had it, all brand new, leather upholstery, straight off the forecourt. Blanket under my bum as I had new jeans on.

Pollycat

missmococo wrote: »

Let me ask this, by everyone's common sense logic, does this mean none of you sit on light sofas in dark trousers or skirts unless you've washed them a few times first? This is a genuine question.

I refrained from posting earlier in this thread as it was obvious you were getting a tad het up about the 'non-consumer' rights answers you had requested.
(Welcome to MSE, by the way).

I would have posted that I bought a cream leather suite quite a few years ago and was definitely warned by the salesman about wearing dark coloured clothing - dry clothes, not wet :cool: - on the sofas.

Also, the suite came with attached warnings about it.

So, to answer your question above - no, I do not (and nor does anyone else) - sit on my light sofas in dark trousers or skirts unless they've been washed more than a few times first.