Dog and a neighbour

chris_n_tj

iammumtoone wrote: »

Thank you, I can understand that you are training a puppy and you have to put his safety first and when he is old enough you will stop using it (or leave the door open). However the OPs (and others) dog is not a puppy, what justifiable reason would they have to leave a fully trained adult dog locked up?

I agree with you there, leaving a dog alone in a crate for hours on end is cruel. I cant answer that question because it would never happen here.

Dexter is 5 years old and has a crate there for him to use if he chooses, (he has one at home and one here at my home.) Its totally his choice he isnt made to use it. In a few more months it will be the same for Ollie.
The only time Dexter has been locked in lord knows how long was when the washing machine repair man came and was afraid of dogs.

Crates if used properly are a good thing, but in the wrong hands yes they are cruel.
Some people shouldnt have animals of any discription.

m0nkeymrs01

When it comes to dog ownership someone is always holier than thou, if I left my dog in the garden I would be wrong, if I built an outdoor kennel I would be wrong, if I locked it in the kitchen I would be wrong, if I use a CAGE I am wrong, unless I let my dog rule the roost and sleep in my bed whilst I share my dinner with it I am wrong, imagine poor horses that get put in stables and don't get to run in the fields all day and poor rabbits kept in hutches and not left to run around the garden, and poor chickens kept in coups!

Like everything it is about balance, it is about making sure the pet is happy and loved and stimulated, where it sleeps is really immaterial and I know one thing for sure my "poor caged dog" and my "poor uncaged dog" are a million times happier and healthier here with me than in their previous homes or in a rescue kennel 24/7 or destroyed because they couldn't be homed.

Now big dog has put himself to bed and little dog has put herself in her crate so its good night from me.

gettingready

Welshchick28 wrote: »

I work part time so i have half an hour in the morning where i am home and in the afternoon im home for a hour so i let her out of her cage where she has a bed and water and let her out to the garden and a small walk round the estate usually as not got much time and then when i go back to work i put her back and been like that since we got her. .

Welshchick28 wrote: »

Im a 20 yr old .... i work full time for the past 2 and a half years as a TA so leave the house 8.15 and home for lunch for 30 min each day and dont get home till about 5pm as work in after school club

Part time or full time?

OP - You are 20 yo and you say the dog is 10 yo, you could not have got him./her yourself when YOU were 10 so....you seem to have an awful lot on your plate TBH but if your family does not look after the dog and you are the only one "doing it all", perhaps rehoming the dog to someone who is at home more and is able to take care of it is not a bad option?

TheDancingBanana

MoneySavingVal wrote: »

I cant believe your neighbours had the cheek to post that letter without writing who it was from!- not a very neighbourly thing to do!

Maybe they were worried she'd set the dog on them

littlerat

One dog an hour is put to sleep in the UK. A 10 year old dog if it ends up in rescue will almost certainly be, there's risks of whoever has him if rehomed privately not being as good as they say, or worse buying cheap dogs for bait for fighting dogs etc - yes, it does happen.

If that time in a crate ideal, no, OP should video and see how he is, but it may actually be that the dog is perfectly happy. He's fed, he's walked, he's loved.


The crate issue - I'm not a fan BUT they're actually used, closed, for dogs with separation anxiety. Being left in a secure area can make a dog who is nervous feel safer, access to a larger area can be daunting, but a dog who's happy in their crate will view it as home and not need or want to leave - it's a safety feeling. Crates can come in enormous sizes, enough for separate areas for even large dogs.



OP, video, see how he is, go from there. If he is unhappy you need to deal with that obviously, but otherwise your dog is probably happier with someone he knows loves him than pushed from pillar to post.

chucknorris

Welshchick28 wrote: »

I work part time so i have half an hour in the morning where i am home and in the afternoon im home for a hour so i let her out of her cage where she has a bed and water and let her out to the garden and a small walk round the estate .

According to your other post:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/62182781#Comment_62182781

You work full time:


Im a 20 yr old and i have a 23 yrold and 19 month old sister i work full time for the past 2 and a half years asa TA so leave the house 8.15 and home for lunch for 30 min each day and dontget home till about 5pm as work in after school club as my mum works long hours

m0nkeymrs01

littlerat wrote: »

One dog an hour is put to sleep in the UK. A 10 year old dog if it ends up in rescue will almost certainly be, there's risks of whoever has him if rehomed privately not being as good as they say, or worse buying cheap dogs for bait for fighting dogs etc - yes, it does happen.

If that time in a crate ideal, no, OP should video and see how he is, but it may actually be that the dog is perfectly happy. He's fed, he's walked, he's loved.


The crate issue - I'm not a fan BUT they're actually used, closed, for dogs with separation anxiety. Being left in a secure area can make a dog who is nervous feel safer, access to a larger area can be daunting, but a dog who's happy in their crate will view it as home and not need or want to leave - it's a safety feeling. Crates can come in enormous sizes, enough for separate areas for even large dogs.



OP, video, see how he is, go from there. If he is unhappy you need to deal with that obviously, but otherwise your dog is probably happier with someone he knows loves him than pushed from pillar to post.

GreAt summary and the exact reason my very anxious rescue dog is still using a crate is because she is happier and safer. If I happened to be out and the window cleaner came to do the windows she would likely harm herself in her frantic panic but in her crate she feels safe and secure (this is one example of many) Her crate is large enough that she has a traditional plastic dog bed at one end and room to stand turn round and move and have food and water bowls at the other end.

dandelionclock30

O.P you can obviously find out if its barking all day by getting a dictaphone and leaving it on as others suggested. If it is then could you take it to a pet sitter or give a pensioner/Student/etc a few quid per day for taking it for a couple of hours per day?
My friend once had a problem with a dog that never stopped barking.the whole street kept telling the owner but he was in denial and said it didnt bark etc. Eventually someone threw a piece of steak over the fence that had been poisoned and the dog stopped barking because it was dead.
Dont let it get to this stage, sort it out so that everyones happy.

Welshchick28

Our dog doesnt stay in the cage (crate) for 22 hours a day! Shes in for 3 hours in the morning and and on the way to another job ( i work in 3 jobs in one day!) i let her out and when i come home after lunch shes probaly been in the crate for about 2 hours she is let out and i take her for a walk( im home an hour here so she doesnt go in the crate) and then when i go back to work she goes back to the crate for 2 max 3 hours and then were home all night. She doesnt sleep at night in the cage she has a bed in the kitchen. So only use the cage while im in work. She does bark when post man comes or hear people and that it but thats normal for dogs. And to people say i have a hand full about other post being young and working and do a lot. Yes i do but thats life you just have to get on with it, i dont know anyone my age that do as much work as i do but thats not going to stop us as a FAMILY to have a pet. Im posting this to have help as we as a FAMILY dont know what to do and thought someone might be able to help us.

Welshchick28

Also know one else has told us that shes noisy in the day its only this lady but today i was in the garden and wanted to find our how far can i hear her barking ( with window open) and i noticed i could only hear the dog till the end of my gate. Which she would have to walk on our driveway where we park our car to get to the gate to be able to hear. So from all the post ive decided to video the dog and outside and to the end of the driveway to see if she comes on our property and will let you know what i find out!