You CAN take more than 100ml of drink on a plane

andrewmoorcroft

sinizterguy wrote: »

In that case, why dont we ask the OP what the situation was ? From what I have experienced, its a fair assumption. But yes it is an assumption and assumption can be wrong at times. I hate the incompetent anal power tripping so-called security at airports.

Wow - what a lot of friendly replies!
The security guy was Asian looking and said 'in it' quite a few times.
The guy with the ice (and strictly complying with the rules) was white, and just to save you asking, i don't know if he was gay, vegetarian, etc, but he wasn't disabled.

I do recall some more of the conversation. The security guy asked how long he'd had it in his bag and he told the security guy about 10 minutes so i guess he lived local. It was a small airport, the check-in was only 2 mins and we boarded 30 mins later for 20 min wait and a 55 min flight to paris. I think there was little chance that any would have turned to water before the flight landed because it was in what appeared to be an insulated back pack. The container looked like a plastic milk carton and could have even been milk but i'm sure he said ice. He appeared to have other food items in the bag so he could have been using it as a cool block. Just remembered another part of the conversation! The security guy said that at one stage that it wasn't allowed because it wasn't a clear liquid. The guy said your absolutely right in it not being clear but that's OK because solids (which are allowed) dont have to be clear!

He sat a couple of rows infront of me on the plane and not once did i worry that he was carrying a solid that could potentially change into the safest liquid known to man.
It appears to me that under the rules the guy did nothing wrong and i'm not sure if security have the power to retain people that are not offending without getting in trouble themselves? How knows, they may be a law to themselves and could have detained him, i don't know. Perhaps they may have been worried about the bad publicity or being proven in court to be incompetent?

Did anyone see ITV - terror in the sky this week about sloppy airport security? It made people carrying safe solids the last thing to worry about!

Enjoy...

mistyarthur

sinizterguy wrote: »

Whoever did that is obviously white.

Are you referring to the original post? If so what the hell does it have to do with it?

sinizterguy

mistyarthur wrote: »

Are you referring to the original post? If so what the hell does it have to do with it?

Yes and read the few posts right above this.

Blagalot

This is good read about liquid explosives:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/

Is it all a money-making scam for the airports/airlines or does the New World Order just want us to live in perpetual fear of the bogeymen?

BARGAINADDICT_4

I have just recently come back from Barbados on holiday, and went through all the security lark at Manchester having 2 buy kids drinks after security ect.. ,but on my return from Barbados I went through security and my bags were scanned which had a few bottles of water in and a bottle of hot sauce and I was allowed to take them all on the plane. I do kind of agree with the measures, but dont see the point when you can still get on a plane flying into the U.K with all these banned items anyway.

BARGAINADDICT_4

oh forgot to mention, not a sign of a customs officer at Manchester on my return either.

ckerrd

It strikes me that a lot of the complaints/gripes about this surround the inconsistensy of it all.

For example in an earlier post ther was talk of drunken blokes on a stag weekend. As far as I recollect it is an offence to board and aeroplane while intoxicated, but I have yet to see anyone turned away.

A drunk is a potential threat at ground level but in the air could (could not would) become more of a threat to fellow passengers.

Different airports adopt slight variations on the security theme.
Why do you sometimes take your shoes off and other times not?

The other week on an internal flight I watched an elderly couple have their bag emptied of two large bottles of water, two large bottles of suntan lotion and some other stuff. The security woman was very pleasant but explained the rules, and in my opinion she was quite right. These people, no matter what age, have a duty to check the "rules" as we all do. If we don't know them then we will fall fould of them from time to time.

The guy with the ice just seemed to be out to prove a point, for what reason I do know not, but he doubtless got a few people's backs up, including a few folk on here.

lizzo

Just wondering what happens to the big containers of discarded bottles of liquid and gels? How are they disposed of? If they are considered a threat on the plane, are they not a threat in the airport all together in the bin? Do they get the army in to do a controlled explosion on them every day?

mistyarthur

ckerrd wrote: »

For example in an earlier post ther was talk of drunken blokes on a stag weekend. As far as I recollect it is an offence to board and aeroplane while intoxicated, but I have yet to see anyone turned away.

I remember a few months ago the day berfore I flew with virgin to america one did....he was the pilot!!! lmao

WiseInvestor_2

nearlyrich wrote: »

taking "duty free" purchases from one airport off someone at the next airport is a little harsh

Most airports will allow Duty Free purchases to be carried onward in hand luggage provided it's kept in a CLEAR, SEALED (ie tamper-proof) plastic bag with a dated, itemised receipt inside. Break the seal (of the bag or the bottle) and it WILL be confiscated.

andrewmoorcroft wrote: »

i'm not sure if security have the power to retain people that are not offending

All airport terminals have police close at hand, who are unlikely to treat potential security threats with much kindness or sympathy. A deliberate attempt to circuvent the rules is just asking for trouble!

BARGAINADDICT wrote: »

on my return from Barbados I went through security and my bags were scanned which had a few bottles of water in and a bottle of hot sauce and I was allowed to take them all on the plane

Every country has the right to devise its own security policies. The UK government has no right to interfere, although they could ban the airline(s) from entering UK airspace. The more likely solution would be for the airline to stage additional (more restrictive) security screening before boarding the plane - a measure used by British Airways in a number of foreign airports around the World.

The UK is deemed a high risk nation for obvious reasons, which is why our security is usually more rigorous than in other, less controversial countries.

ckerrd wrote: »

it is an offence to board and aeroplane while intoxicated, but I have yet to see anyone turned away

Correct. And denied boarding can/should and does happen - because I've said no on a number of occasions. Drunk passengers can be a danger to themselves and those around them in an emergency situation.

lizzo wrote: »

Just wondering what happens to the big containers of discarded bottles of liquid and gels? How are they disposed of? If they are considered a threat on the plane, are they not a threat in the airport all together in the bin? Do they get the army in to do a controlled explosion on them every day?

The current scientific thinking is that certain liquids only become potentially dangerous once mixed/distilled with other substances so a bin full of plastic bottles should not pose too great a risk in the terminal building.