New £60 Fines For Taking Children On Holiday During School Term (No 10 Days Grace)!

gregg1

jackieblack wrote: »

Meanwhile, in the real world........ :wall:
what makes you think that there aren't other jobs in which this happens? Tradesmen/craftsmen are often expected to supply their own tools.
The difference is that stickers and 'pocket money prizes' are things that you don't NEED to do your job, you may want them, you may think they are nice, but they are not NECESSARY

And why does EVERY thread about schools turn into a 'we're so hard done by' moan from teachers :mad:

And what has any of that got to do with penalty notices for term-time holidays?

Probably because EVERY thread about school turns into a teacher bashing exercise:mad:

Murphy_The_Cat

gregg1 wrote: »

Probably because EVERY thread about school turns into a teacher bashing exercise:mad:

Thats been mentioned a few times on here -- but so far it hasn't happened. I wonder if its the pressurised air in the Travel secton taht keeps us calm ?:D

notanewuser

gregg1 wrote: »

Yes it is true. The trainings days were originally holidays.

Yes. 25 years ago teachers lost 5 days of their holidays. The children have never lost 5 days of teaching due to INSET days.

Mr_Wang

notanewuser wrote: »

Yes. 25 years ago teachers lost 5 days of their holidays. The children have never lost 5 days of teaching due to INSET days.

But working parents lose 5 days holiday.

Teachers work 195 days out of 365 - That's just over half a year.

notanewuser

Mr_Wang wrote: »

But working parents lose 5 days holiday.

Teachers work 195 days out of 365 - That's just over half a year.

And?

Emergency service workers working 4 or 5 days on, 4 or 5 days off work less than half the year.

The average person working Mon-Fri works a maximum of 233 days. It's not uncommon for teachers to work during the evenings and weekend and part of their holidays. I'm sure they do more than 38 extra days worth of work.

gregg1

Mr_Wang wrote: »

But working parents lose 5 days holiday.

Teachers work 195 days out of 365 - That's just over half a


I can only speak for my OH, but she most certainly works more than 195 days out of 365!

Mr_Wang

gregg1 wrote: »

Mr_Wang wrote: »

But working parents lose 5 days holiday.

Teachers work 195 days out of 365 - That's just over half a


I can only speak for my OH, but she most certainly works more than 195 days out of 365!

My sister is an English teacher at a secondary school and she is always rubbing it in about how little she works and her extended time off.

Personally I think teachers do a fantastic job and so I'm not going to start 'teacher bashing'

But I do believe that whilst there might be many things teachers can complain about - Time off is not one of them!

zaksmum

My daughter's a deputy head and she works like a dog.

By the time the summer holidays come round she's exhausted and really needs that break.

People often fail to consider the behind-the-scenes work teachers do, often late into the evening and at weekends. My daughter is expected to be at work in the last official week of the summer holidays, too.

She has to sort out a lot of the social problems the kids may have too, along with a whole range of other duties. It's far from easy.

I often wonder why those who think teaching is a cushy number don't train up to do it themselves...!

balletshoes

zaksmum wrote: »

My daughter's a deputy head and she works like a dog.

By the time the summer holidays come round she's exhausted and really needs that break.

People often fail to consider the behind-the-scenes work teachers do, often late into the evening and at weekends. My daughter is expected to be at work in the last official week of the summer holidays, too.

She has to sort out a lot of the social problems the kids may have too, along with a whole range of other duties. It's far from easy.

I often wonder why those who think teaching is a cushy number don't train up to do it themselves...!

oh there could be loads of reasons for that - like for example they don't like kids enough to want to spend 6 hours a day with 20 or 30 of them!

gregg1

Mr_Wang wrote: »

gregg1 wrote: »

My sister is an English teacher at a secondary school and she is always rubbing it in about how little she works and her extended time off.

Personally I think teachers do a fantastic job and so I'm not going to start 'teacher bashing'

But I do believe that whilst there might be many things teachers can complain about - Time off is not one of them!

I think your sister is lucky if she feels that way. To be honest there are a few teachers at my OH's school who have nothing like the timetable and workload some of of the other teachers have. I think to a large extent, the subject taught is a huge factor in varying workloads and pressure. Core subjects for instance, I think, carry more pressure and are more time consuming to prep for than some other subjects. OH teaches maths in one of the top state schools and does go in on most half terms for a few days, to do extra tuition with the kids taking exams/make up for snow days etc.

Of course, the holidays are a huge plus side to the job. She was a chartered accountant previously and never managed to take her full annual leave entitlement so she fully appreciates the holidays. The 50% pay cut however, not so much!