New £60 Fines For Taking Children On Holiday During School Term (No 10 Days Grace)!

notanewuser

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

What teachers take time off in term time for holidays? I know several teachers and none of them have ever been able to take time off during term for holidays. One of them wasn't even allowed an afternoon off on the Friday before half term so she could get a decent flight to get to her wedding abroad that was on the Saturday morning - even though another teacher was free and volunteered to cover the one lesson she had that afternoon.

That's absolutely right. I know teachers that have been allowed unpaid leave to attend other people's weddings, because they have no control over that. They do however have control over their own weddings (plus 12 weeks to choose from to actually do it).

browneyedbazzi

jackieblack wrote: »

So why didn't she book the flights/wedding at a more convenient time in the first place?

How is that the point? There were a few reasons why the wedding was planned for when it was, none of which are relevant to this thread.

The other poster made it sound as if teachers take time off willy nilly during term time for holidays- the point of my example is that this is extremely rare if it happens at all.

jackieblack

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

How is that the point? There were a few reasons why the wedding was planned for when it was, none of which are relevant to this thread.

The point is, why would a teacher book her wedding for a time when she knew it would be difficult for her to make the flight?
Surely, when you're booking your wedding you make sure it's a for a day/time that you can get there without it being a problem?
Don't book it for a time that makes it difficult and then complain when you can't get time off to get a more convenient flight.
Sorry, it's not rocket science.

mcfisco

jackieblack wrote: »

The point is, why would a teacher book her wedding for a time when she knew it would be difficult for her to make the flight?
Surely, when you're booking your wedding you make sure it's a for a day/time that you can get there without it being a problem?

Can't they get the head to invent some sort of training day?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9658675/Teachers-caught-at-wedding-after-sending-children-home-for-staff-development.html

browneyedbazzi

jackieblack wrote: »

The point is, why would a teacher book her wedding for a time when she knew it would be difficult for her to make the flight?
Surely, when you're booking your wedding you make sure it's a for a day/time that you can get there without it being a problem?
Don't book it for a time that makes it difficult and then complain when you can't get time off to get a more convenient flight.
Sorry, it's not rocket science.

The first saturday of a half term when the rest of your friends/family have a four day weekend seems like a pretty good time to book a wedding to me. She did get there without a problem - it would have been nice for her to get the earlier flight and have a more restful night but it wasn't essential. And where do you see her complaining? I was using her experience to illustrate that teachers are not given time off for holidays during term time willy nilly as was implied by a previous poster. That wasn't a complaint - I think they get plenty of time for holidays - it was a statement.

jackieblack

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

The first saturday of a half term when the rest of your friends/family have a four day weekend seems like a pretty good time to book a wedding to me. She did get there without a problem - it would have been nice for her to get the earlier flight and have a more restful night but it wasn't essential. And where do you see her complaining? I was using her experience to illustrate that teachers are not given time off for holidays during term time willy nilly as was implied by a previous poster. That wasn't a complaint - I think they get plenty of time for holidays - it was a statement.

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

One of them wasn't even allowed an afternoon off on the Friday before half term so she could get a decent flight to get to her wedding abroad that was on the Saturday morning

Sorry, that wording sounded like a complaint to me.
But if you say it wasn't, I believe you

Murphy_The_Cat

jackieblack wrote: »

Meanwhile, in the real world........ :wall:


And why does EVERY thread about schools turn into a 'we're so hard done by' moan from teachers :mad:

I do know several teachers and from the way that they talk, they certainly give the impression that they are the only ones who are currently getting a hard time -- and that non-teachers really don't appreciate just how badly done to they are.
Bless.

signol

Valli wrote: »

(In other jobs there would be outrage if staff members were expected to supply things with which to do the job!)

Like NHS staff. (pattern emerging here? Publi sector anyone?)

To the original point, there surely must be some distinction between a bucket and spade holiday to Benidorm, and visiting family / educational trips. For example, our eldest is 4 so he starts school this September. His grandparents live in South Africa, are elderly and disabled so no chance of them coming here. If he is to see them at all, it is us that visits. Fares in term time can be £200 cheaper per person, so £800 for the family! And he gets to see game parks, different cutures, etc.

signol

mcfisco

signol wrote: »

Like NHS staff. (pattern emerging here? Publi sector anyone?)

To the original point, there surely must be some distinction between a bucket and spade holiday to Benidorm, and visiting family / educational trips.

It would be impossible to manage
There'd have to be some sort of notional cut-off point between educational and recreational, how would you measure it?
Someone would also have to make a decision on each and every trip requested and then be left exposed to others appealing their case, lying about where they're actually going or claiming favouritism etc.

Totally unworkable

Indout96

It would be impossible to manage

Its already done up here with trips back to Pakistan to see relations. It will be an interesting case when they try to take someone to court up here for taking a week off for a holiday when others in the same class are not fined for taking 3 weeks off for "cultural" reasons.