Getting abuse for "pretending to be disabled"

ska_lover

They are just ignorant pr1cks OP

dori2o

I've had it at work from a member of the senior management team, although it was said behind my back and not to my face. Apparently I'm just in a littler bit of pain and should take a couple of neurofen and get over it.

I'm not so sure how affective Neurofen would be considering 100mg+ of Morphine and 30mg of Ketamine a day do virtually nothing.

Brassedoff

Firstly you can report them as it is a hate crime. But you will not help the Police if you go and report "two blokes". If you know their names and addresses, all well and good, otherwise bide your time, if you see them when you are out and see the Police, stop them and report them.

We are in a time where the disabled and ill are being singled out as a drain on society. This demonisation is down to Ian Duncan Smith's targeting of the disabled as an easy hit. No one can deny the DLA and IB needed desparete reforms, far too many have seen it as a life style choice. No matter how many protestations people on here make, there are.

Then you have the right wing press who run stories like this where in a small town such as Blaenau Gwent, 1 in 6 claim a mental illness. whereas the actual illnesses don't affect anywhere ten times that amount as a proportion of society. This bring those with no connection to claiming, or being involved with any illnesses to jump to the conclusion that claiming depression is the route to an extra £500 a month in disability related benefits. These reforms are no different to the ones needed in other areas of the "big" government we have where the majority of this country expect it to do almost everything for them.

But there again if this stupid government did not give 7.8% of this nations gross domestic product to countries that have their own space program's, are building aircraft carriers etc, there would be no need whatsoever to cut any disabled benefit, in fact they could increase it!

As for less and less sympathy for the "disabled", I do believe this is down to so many interest groups claiming their interest as a disability. This has desensitised everyone from what they believe is a disability to confusion brought about from there now being so many disabilities.

The only way to correct this is to define a disability and an illness. If we continue in the manner we are, quite soon acute nasopharyngitis or rhinovirus will have exponents claiming it to be a disability.

Don't forget, if you see them, report them!

SPELLKASTER

This sounds like a disability hate crime and if I was the OP, I would report it to the police. I would also make sure that if you have a mobile phone, some mobile phones have the available to record.

Maybe invest in a mobile phone which has audible recording capabilities, next time you see these horrible 2 indididuals warn that you will record what they say and then take it to the police.

LimeLight

I have reported it to the police and they're treating it as a "hate incident" rather than a hate crime.

Give it time.....

dktreesea

dori2o wrote: »

I've had it at work from a member of the senior management team, although it was said behind my back and not to my face. Apparently I'm just in a littler bit of pain and should take a couple of neurofen and get over it.

I'm not so sure how affective Neurofen would be considering 100mg+ of Morphine and 30mg of Ketamine a day do virtually nothing.

Work places are notorious. If you need anything in the workplace which marks you as different, e.g. a walking aid/special chair/special softwear if suffer from very short sight, even if the management provide you with those things, there is always a disaffected group who make a fuss, insist you are getting favourable treatment, and are on and on behind your back about how unfair it is.

Do the management do anything? They should if they were doing their job correctly, but quite often not only do they not get on top of the bullies, but they start to think that the disabled person is "the problem". They'll say stuff like "where's the proof" if the disabled person reports the bullies.

dktreesea

Brassedoff wrote: »

We are in a time where the disabled and ill are being singled out as a drain on society. This demonisation is down to Ian Duncan Smith's targeting of the disabled as an easy hit. No one can deny the DLA and IB needed desparete reforms, far too many have seen it as a life style choice. No matter how many protestations people on here make, there are.

The government is in a position to do something about this. They could cancel the extra payments for disability, and just have a single out of work benefit if they wanted to. They can change the rules and make benefits conditional for all who receive them, whatever their personal impairments or circumstances. Maybe that kind of blanket approach would mean the basic level of benefit has to be increased. Perhaps they could fund it by making the maximum amount of liquid assets you can have before you can claim benefits £3k instead of £16k for a family.

There's lots of things the government can do to reform the social welfare situation. How about means testing for pensions? Why do millionaires need the basic state pension? They just don't want to because they don't want to be seen as the nasty party. So instead they are more subtle, and try to get enough anti disability stories into the media to get members of the public to be their bully boys.

Brassedoff wrote: »

Don't forget, if you see them, report them!

If you see who exactly, and report them to who, based on what evidence?

ohreally

dktreesea wrote: »

The government is in a position to do something about this. They could cancel the extra payments for disability, and just have a single out of work benefit if they wanted to.

How would this recognise and take into account those disabled individuals who work?

Murphybear

I think the treatment of disabled people must vary depending on where you live.

After a knee replacement I had to use crutches for many months and was I suppose temporarily disabled and was on ESA. I found everyone friendly and helpful and sympathetic, including the Job Centre and Council (shock horror there but the library let me register as temporary disabled so I could borrow talking books for free).

I live in the middle of Devon in a rural community and I think this may have a lot to do with people's attitudes, I am virtually at retirement age and so are most of the people I meet.

Brassedoff

dktreesea wrote: »

The government is in a position to do something about this. They could cancel the extra payments for disability, and just have a single out of work benefit if they wanted to. They can change the rules and make benefits conditional for all who receive them, whatever their personal impairments or circumstances. Maybe that kind of blanket approach would mean the basic level of benefit has to be increased. Perhaps they could fund it by making the maximum amount of liquid assets you can have before you can claim benefits £3k instead of £16k for a family.

There's lots of things the government can do to reform the social welfare situation. How about means testing for pensions? Why do millionaires need the basic state pension? They just don't want to because they don't want to be seen as the nasty party. So instead they are more subtle, and try to get enough anti disability stories into the media to get members of the public to be their bully boys.



If you see who exactly, and report them to who, based on what evidence?

Why should I lose my disability payments because I can be bothered to work? I suffer from a severe chronic disability that requires the equivilant Fentynal at 700mu of morphine and 33 other tablets a day to control. I get carried from my car to home, I go to bed upstairs on all fours. I have six further operations planned in the next 12 months. I could select to sit on my ar5e and claim one of the many problems I have, crumbling spine, total incontinence, cancer of the bladder, permenant sciatica and now a stroke! So. If I can drag myself to work, why should I lose the little benefit that pays for the adaptation of my vehicle for the wheelchair.

Not saying other could do some sort of job, after all they might feel they are not able to do anything, oh, btw, I forgot, I cannot cook and feed myself or wipe my bum, could others do SOME sort of work?

DLA, is a in work benefit.