DPF- Hope i have the abbreviation correct....

Ultrasonic

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

How do i find out if it's even got this filter thing?

As it sounds like you bought your car from a main dealer and intend to continue to get it serviced there, the easiest thing to do may be to phone them and ask. (Having a quick look online I think the 90 PS (essentially 90 bhp) version of the 1.6 HDi engine doesn't have a DPF whilst the more powerful 110 PS engine does, but you want to know for certain...)

By the way, I think Peugeot (being French) use the term FAP for what most manufacturers call a DPF.

You might also find this AA link interesting:

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuels-and-environment/diesel-particulate-filters.html

OddballJamie

Also does the engine cover have 16 in big numbers on it?

Retrogamer

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

Thanks guys.
It has a full service history and i will continue to put it through a full dealership service when required, will this be enough to sort/rectify the problem should it occur?

Well this is the problem with modern cars in my opinion
The service intervals are stretched to the maximum. People think they're saving money as less services needed. The problem is, due to the longer intervals it's not uncommon for cars to become money pits shortly after the warranty expires due to poor servicing.

I service all my cars ever 5,000 miles with oil and filter.
Air filter and fuel filter at least every year.

When the service intervals are 12k+ then the oil loses most of it's cleaning properties. After a long time all the oil ways in the engine become filthy with carbon deposits and the likes so when things start to fail due to poor lubrication the only 100% method of sorting it is a full engine clean by stripping it down.

It depends on how long you want to keep the car as well though.
My old Corsa 1.5TD done 184k before it got wrote off and i wouldn't be surprised if the engine had double that left in it.

GolfBravo

Ultrasonic wrote: »

do you happen to have any data about the actual rates of forced DPF regerations at garages or of DPF failures? Just curious as to the real extent of the problem.

I don't have any reliable data, sorry.

From manufacturers' point of view there isn't really a "problem" with DPFs. Forced regenerations are not faults, they are considered maintenance. DPFs are eventually getting blocked by soot and ash, therefore they are doing their job (usually the underlaying problem is engine using too much oil, due to e.g.. poor maintenance, abuse, manufacturing fault).

IMHO, the main issue is that manufacturers do not tell buyers the full story. Sales materials and car handbooks are full of modern diesel "consumer benefits" (good MPG, clean emissions, smooth clutch with DMF, etc.) but don't tell you about the side effects.

So when you read about clean emissions, thanks to advanced technology, nowhere does it say that there is an expensive filter and that can get blocked due to slow city traffic. Nobody mentions the fact that the car may need a forced regeneration at a garage. And that oil and filter change may be required before they can undertake forced regeneration. And if the cambelt replacement is due soon, a garage will not undertake forced DPF regeneration without changing the cambelt first. And how about fuel consumption increase of over 4% (unofficially it is over 7% more fuel used due to regenerations and restricted exhaust gas flow). ££££

People are getting very angry as they buy diesel-powered cars to save a few £, all based on manufacturers' claims and advertising, and then suddenly they get a bill for £800+ and are told "you shouldn't really be driving a diesel".

OddballJamie

Retrogamer wrote: »

It depends on how long you want to keep the car as well though.
My old Corsa 1.5TD done 184k before it got wrote off and i wouldn't be surprised if the engine had double that left in it.

184k? That the same Corsa you were trying to get £1500 from the insurance for?

jase1

Ultrasonic wrote: »

Thanks for explaining. Bursts like this makes sense. (Unless it's done at sufficiently low revs to cause DMF damage I guess...)

Given that the 150BHP Vectra is very prone to DMF faults I have to wonder if Fiat have thought this one through very well :rotfl:

Smacks of bad engineering to me that the very style of driving recommended to fix one lame, badly-implemented feature (DPF regen) can lead to the consequences of another lame, badly-implemented feature (DMF destruction and failure of the chocolate-construction gearboxes).

But then, it is a Vauxhall after all

bod1467

My Golf GT 2.0 TDi has 18k / 2 years servicing intervals (per manufacturer handbook). Fortunately it's a company car so I don't need to worry about servicing, repairs etc.

To the comment about 1000 revs in top gear ... the Golf has a gear advisor indication in the multi-function display - presumably what VW suggest as being the optimum gear for fuel economy and performance given engine revs and load. Quite often this will lead to being in a gear that means the revs are not much more than 1000 rpm. Any comments on this?

almillar

When i passed my test, i was taught (maybe wrongly?) 45mph plus should be 5th gear.

In your instructors opinion, in the car you learnt in. You need to adapt your driving to different cars. 1st gear in a Ferrari will take it to 60mph!
As I hope you've learnt in this thread, driving around in any car at low revs all the time is bad for any car.

Retrogamer

OddballJamie wrote: »

184k? That the same Corsa you were trying to get £1500 from the insurance for?

Do you mean that thread where the car's value was listed at £1500 with my insurance and i said numerous times i knew i wouldn't get that amount but wanted a "reasonable" sum
Mileage doesn't always reflect condition.

sistafromanothermista

almillar wrote: »

In your instructors opinion, in the car you learnt in. You need to adapt your driving to different cars. 1st gear in a Ferrari will take it to 60mph!
As I hope you've learnt in this thread, driving around in any car at low revs all the time is bad for any car.

I'll try that out next time i'm in my Ferrari :D


I have learnt about the revs thing, yes. I'll be trying out the 'over 3000' revs when my next motorway journey comes up.

In response to one of the other posts, i was actually thinking of getting it serviced every year. (I actually assumed i needed to:o)
Is this excessive? or a good idea?
Also, i noticed they do an 'interim service' or 'full service' but couldn't really see a massive difference. Should i just go for the full service as it would pick up/fix more issues?

Also in response, yes i purchased it from a main dealer.
It has only just had a full service. I'm really pleased with the car and it drives really well and is so comfortable compared to my previous one (Focus) I just want to keep it that way!