Primary School selling beers at sports day?

securityguy

pigpen wrote: »

So you are never exposed to advertising or the media or displays in shops???

"Being exposed to advertising" is not equal to "being forced".

POPPYOSCAR

duchy wrote: »

I think it is more subtle than that ...... If you see alcohol in a place you buy your everyday items then does it give the child the idea that alcohol is fine to drink every day-even as a subliminal impression ?

I agree.

For years I thought nothing about drinking alcohol, never even considered what damage I could be doing to my body. It is only now I am older (and wiser) that I stop to think about it more seriously.

peachyprice

duchy wrote: »

I think it is more subtle than that ...... If you see alcohol in a place you buy your everyday items then does it give the child the idea that alcohol is fine to drink every day-even as a subliminal impression ?

I would have thought only if the parents are visiting the drinks aisles on every trip, which brings us back to parents educating their children, doesn't it?

I don't know about other supermarkets, but I shop at Sainsbury's mostly, the drinks aisles are at the back in the corner, in their own little set of aisles, if I don't want to buy alcohol there's no need to go near those aisles, when my children were of an age to have to come shopping with me they would rarely have been to those aisles either.

Also the same can be said for other things that are bad for us surely, a whole aisle dedicated to sweets and chocolate, a whole aisle dedicated to crisps, is that sending the same subliminal impression that it's ok to eat them every day? Or is it the parent's responsibility to educate their children that it isn't?

duchy

moneysaymoneydo wrote: »

"No wonder so many people abuse it when it is quite literally forced on you at every turn"

Sorry but no one forces anything on me!

But you're not an impressionable eighteen year old....are you ?

Nothing winds me up more than when offered a drink and saying I want a juice the offerer then starts the "Oh you must have a "real" drink" routine and go on and on about it . If I want a real drink I'll ask for one thanks -I may not want one because I'm on medication or because I'm driving or because I might be a recovering alcoholic ...or maybe I just fancy an orange juice.............. and don't even get me started on the morons who try to slip a vodka into the glass of juice without the drinker's knowledge. I lost count how often I saw people try that or tell me to add vodka when I worked in a pub. If I knew the person had definitely said they didn't want alcohol I'd either refuse to do it...or just pretend I had (and if the orderer was a complete w%%%er I might even charge them for the shot)

365days

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts?gclid=CM-x2Pbx_rcCFe7JtAoduAoAJA

Should schools really be selling it ??

I am biased of course. Having had a drink problem and now nearly 4 years sober. Having lost relatives and friends to drink. Having seen kid's lives wrecked by others drinking.

There is no other over 18 product schools would consider selling.

Why alcohol?

POPPYOSCAR

securityguy wrote: »

"Being exposed to advertising" is not equal to "being forced".

This is nit picking.

The words are being taken out of context of the post.

POPPYOSCAR

365days wrote: »

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts?gclid=CM-x2Pbx_rcCFe7JtAoduAoAJA

Should schools really be selling it ??

I am biased of course. Having had a drink problem and now nearly 4 years sober. Having lost relatives and friends to drink. Having seen kid's lives wrecked by others drinking.

There is no other over 18 product schools would consider selling.

Why alcohol?

Well done you!:)

securityguy

duchy wrote: »

Nothing winds me up more than when offered a drink and saying I want a juice the offerer then starts the "Oh you must have a "real" drink" routine

You must frequent some very strange places. I would guess that when on licensed premises I drink alcohol about one time in three, and I have never, in thirty years of similar behaviour, had that response. I've never had that happen in someone's house, either. Many of the restaurants I frequent are unlicensed (Muslim owned) and in several cases forbid your own booze as well: it doesn't seem to affect their trade.

and don't even get me started on the morons who try to slip a vodka into the glass of juice without the drinker's knowledge.

Why do you associate with such people?

pigpen

securityguy wrote: »

"Being exposed to advertising" is not equal to "being forced".

I don't want to see it.. it is therefore forced on me.. I don't want to see Cola adverts either.. or cigarette ones and I might ban car and holidays ones too.. It is all forced on us constant bombardment to make you think drugging yourself is normal!

I am about as far from most advertising as possible and still get the bombardment polluting my eyes. No tv, no newspapers/magazines, everything blocked online just about.. unless a new bit comes up I don't get it.. yet there it is.. at the bus stop, in shop windows, at the supermarket etc.

I know it is there.. I don't need telling it is part of an everyday diet!

When we went to Tesco last week the very first aisle in front of the doors contained.. BBQs, crisps, stupid caps and mens floral garments and shelf upon shelf of alcohol... not acceptable... any more than the BHS display right inside the door a few years ago with 'adult' chocolates and adult 'bedroom equipment'.. all at eye level for the average under 8!

duchy

peachyprice wrote: »

I would have thought only if the parents are visiting the drinks aisles on every trip, which brings us back to parents educating their children, doesn't it?

I don't know about other supermarkets, but I shop at Sainsbury's mostly, the drinks aisles are at the back in the corner, in their own little set of aisles, if I don't want to buy alcohol there's no need to go near those aisles, when my children were of an age to have to come shopping with me they would rarely have been to those aisles either.

Also the same can be said for other things that are bad for us surely, a whole aisle dedicated to sweets and chocolate, a whole aisle dedicated to crisps, is that sending the same subliminal impression that it's ok to eat them every day? Or is it the parent's responsibility to educate their children that it isn't?

Unless a person has a very unusual intolerence to sugar etc odds are sweets, crisps and chocolate won't make them become violent, driving a car under the influence of Cadburys is not yet a motoring offence under the current statutes, an extra Crunchie "for the road" won't leave the consumer so ill they are unable to get up for work the next day - and a bag of Walkers is unlikely to have you shouting to God down the big white telephone. A few cavities aren't as devestating as liver failure ...........so although healthy eating is important and I don't really understand why you think it should be healthy eating OR responsible drinking -decent parents should be able to manage educating in both ...... overall abuse of alcohol is a lot more likely to kill you than gorging. Yes I know over eating can cause problems but it's a lot harder to hide than alcoholism so is generally addressed -by caring families sooner rather than later.