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Primary School selling beers at sports day?

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  • sexylulubelle
    sexylulubelle Posts: 1,144 Forumite
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    Just a quick update, I'm happy to report that there was not a single beer sold at this sports event, they had a (cold) refresment tent tho........ but most parents werent interested as this year everyone seemed to have brought their own refreshments;0 funny that, maybe they will get it right next year lol!
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  • duchy
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    The difference is that food is considered a normal and essential part of life whereas alcohol is merely a preference.I don't eat in front of ..or witter on about food in front of friends who re observing Ramadan as a matter of courtesy but then I don't insist on drinking in front of recovering alcoholics or smoke around people who are trying to quit either.

    I have more Mormon friends than Muslim friends- Just because YOU have a certain demographic around you -it doesn't mean that everyone else is the same. Members of the LDS church tend to have larger families so in an area with an active church -it wouldn't take many families attending the local primary school to mean a significant number of pupils at a sports day belong to families with zero exposure to alcohol. That's without including the Quakers, Methodists and the significant number of families who simply prefer their children not to see alcohol consumed for personal rather than religious reasons.



    I doubt there are many, or indeed any, UK schools which are 50% Mormon or Buddhist or Methodist, or indeed all three together, and Methodism and alcohol is like Catholicism and contraception (and "oh noes, won't anyone think of the Methodists" is hardly a major theme). I think it's safe to assume that "think of the people that will leave if there's alcohol" is code for "think of the Muslims".

    That aside, there is legitimate debate as to what "respect" means. All schools will contain vegetarians, but no-one suggests that "respect" means never serving meat. Most schools will contain Jehovah's Witnesses, but they will still celebrate Christmas and birthdays.

    The contention that others should modify their behaviour out of "respect" for other faiths is bogus, because the adherents of that faith will almost never demand it. The contention that, for example, non-Muslims should not eat in front of Muslims during Ramadan is criticised most heavily by Muslims themselves: not only is it patronising, it also risks sewing dissension. Even MPAC UK, who are hardly cuddly and mainstream, disagree.
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  • valk_scot
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    I don't drink soft drinks either - I've always thought they were for children as well.

    So if you're an adult who doesn't drink alcohol for one of a number of reasons, what do you drink? Tea/coffee, fruit juice, milk, water? I drink a lot of mineral water but it gets a bit boring after a while so I do drink "children's" drinks...the odd diet coke, soda and lime juice, Ribena, Appletize and, when I go to France, I buy lots of their excellent sirops and cordials which are really just French squash but not so sickly and synthetic. oh yes, and I like elderflower cordial with fizzy water. That's just squash as well though.
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    valk_scot wrote: »
    So if you're an adult who doesn't drink alcohol for one of a number of reasons, what do you drink? Tea/coffee, fruit juice, milk, water? I drink a lot of mineral water but it gets a bit boring after a while so I do drink "children's" drinks...the odd diet coke, soda and lime juice, Ribena, Appletize and, when I go to France, I buy lots of their excellent sirops and cordials which are really just French squash but not so sickly and synthetic. oh yes, and I like elderflower cordial with fizzy water. That's just squash as well though.

    I drink tea.. and if I go out.. lemonade (with no ice or lemon! contaminants in my drink!! :eek:) or hot chocolate. Very very occasionally I will drink fresh orange juice.. but rarely as it irritates my internal organs. I do occasionally drink the orange oasis too but that irritates too so it is kept to a minimum.

    I haven't drank milk in living memory, I don't drink water.. it is for dogs and frogs :p and I don't ever drink cordials/squash.
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  • delain
    delain Posts: 7,700 Forumite
    For a few years i craved ice (now I know that was caused by anemia!) but remember going to a harvester with OH when I was having squeak and just filling the entire glass with ice which was in nice little bits with a token splash of Pepsi and eating it with a spoon :o weird, me :p

    I don't tend to drink alcohol and owing to my family background don't like people drinking around children!
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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    valk_scot wrote: »
    So if you're an adult who doesn't drink alcohol for one of a number of reasons, what do you drink? Tea/coffee, fruit juice, milk, water? I drink a lot of mineral water but it gets a bit boring after a while so I do drink "children's" drinks...the odd diet coke, soda and lime juice, Ribena, Appletize and, when I go to France, I buy lots of their excellent sirops and cordials which are really just French squash but not so sickly and synthetic. oh yes, and I like elderflower cordial with fizzy water. That's just squash as well though.

    I never said people shouldn't drink what they like, I just said that soft drinks and pop aren't for me. I also don't see that there's anything wrong with drinking something "boring", I want it to quench my thirst, not to entertain me!
  • Treevo
    Treevo Posts: 1,937 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    I never said people shouldn't drink what they like, I just said that soft drinks and pop aren't for me. I also don't see that there's anything wrong with drinking something "boring", I want it to quench my thirst, not to entertain me!

    You're beginning to sound like Betty from Linda Smith's A Brief History of Timewasting!
  • barbarawright
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    Treevo wrote: »
    You're beginning to sound like Betty from Linda Smith's A Brief History of Timewasting!

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  • Smi1er
    Smi1er Posts: 642 Forumite
    Selling beers as a sports day is a bit of a no-no.

    Our primary school never got a drinks license. Instead we had a parent who was a landlord so we were covered under theirs as long as they were present.

    OP. If you want soft drinks how about joining the PTA or setting up a stall and donating profits to the school?
  • securityguy
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    duchy wrote: »
    That's without including the Quakers, Methodists

    Alcohol is simply a non-issue amongst Methodists and Quakers of an age likely to have children. I've drunk wine with a Methodist minister in the back garden of his house next to the church, a house that was for extra irony on Quaker land.

    http://www.methodist.org.uk/who-we-are/views-of-the-church/alcohol
    So are all Methodists teetotalers?

    No. The Church has always highlighted the dangers of dependency on alcohol and the damage it causes to personal well-being and social relationships. The judgement of the Methodist Church, however, is that total abstinence is a matter for individual choice. It is not a condition of membership. Methodists are recommended to make a personal commitment either to total abstinence or to responsible drinking.

    And who would argue with that?

    http://www.quaker.org.uk/advices/40
    In view of the harm done by the use of alcohol, tobacco and other habit-forming drugs, consider whether you should limit your use of them or refrain from using them altogether. Remember that any use of alcohol or drugs may impair judgment and put both the user and others in danger.

    And who would argue with that?
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