Would you pass someone a glass of water

globalds

I am not sure where the legality of paying NHS employees ( or employees of any other government run organisation ) public money to keep quiet about issues that would more than likely lead to the end of senior managers careers comes from ?
...Especially if the decision to offer this payment is being made by the very senior figure who's job would be in jeopardy.. Seems to be an abuse of office and a misuse of public money ...

grizzly1911

Generali wrote: »

...not because it's your job but just because they asked?

NHS nurses don't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10138140/Rotten-NHS-culture-led-to-cover-ups.html

And NHS bureaucrats allow them to starve their patients to death and cover it up.

#envyoftheworld

Dragging this up again Gen?

Just noticed another couple of "inflammatory " headlines.

Stephen Lawrence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23026324

Childrens Care Homes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22960037

POPPYOSCAR

lostinrates wrote: »

Today at hospital I was brought a glass of water (ice and lemon?) and offer tea or coffee and a biscuit. I was seen early, because I'd arrived early and he could see me. I'm having the procedure at our earliest mutual convenience to be agreed in the morning, after I had checked with those I needed to check with.

I noticed on the forms one of the options for treatment there after self funding and insurance was nhs. I'm happy for the people that get nhs treatment there .


All that said, its not feasible nor desirable to expect an nhs to fund all that.

Yes my DIL had an operation last year in a private hospital under the NHS and it was lovely.

I do not quite understand how this comes about.

Jennifer_Jane

My knowledge of whistle-blowing in a large multi-national company is that it is a horrible, often terrifying (threats etc), time-consuming and difficult thing to do. Getting believed, getting proof, and going through the whole process with people you may work very closely with, very possibly your boss, is so horrible and can be dangerous for the whistle-blower.

Our Company had a policy of enabling whistle-blowing, but it's certainly not for the faint-hearted. I'm full of admiration for them.

Kennyboy66

But still posting hyperbole about the NHS

#obsessed

lostinrates

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Yes my DIL had an operation last year in a private hospital under the NHS and it was lovely.

I do not quite understand how this comes about.

Because there s availability and it probably makes commercial sense for the private hosipital for there not to be availability and the nhs not to have a waiting list building while there is capacity to take them there. Dunno, just a guess.

Conversely some of my stuff got switched from private to nhs because private just doesn't have the equipment and resources in this country. So for example, though I initially saw my ophthalmic consultant privately he had to refer me too is own nhs eye clinic. There seems little advantage to where I see my neurologist bar the setting and ititial waiting time, the swine is as unpleasant in the private hospital over a hot cup of tea as in the nhs one. The drugs ATM are the same.


, I think access might have changed to a patients history for consultants seeing them privately
? If so this would be revolutionary to interaction between sectors.

Conrad

I came across an example of public sector tick box culture yesterday, and the manner in which is seems to dwell in irrelevance and distraction from core aims.

My office.
3 hours.
Regular 1:1 meeting between our apprentice and her college supervisor.

Here are the sorts of areas and questions that formed 90% of the meeting;

+ "can you list for me the key benefits and features of the fax machine"
+"please list 5 benefits of the photocopier"
+ "in the event of a flu pandemic, what procedures are in place for you to speak with work colleagues"
+ "what is the recycling procedure and list it's benefits for the environment"


Argghhhhh


I give up. The world is mad.

What happened to good old managers coming down and having a quick common sense chat and BUSINESS?

Conrad

An example of NHS H&S culture diverting staff away from core needs;

Woman in my office MIL has dementia.

In hospital bed next to her an elderly woman weighing about 6 stone needed to go to toilet.

Out came a massive crane and then followed a 20 minute awkward procedure trying to get her into it and to the loo.

That's 20 minutes on one patient needing the loo on a busy ward with many calls on nursing time.

Is society so delicate that we cannot risk a couple of nurses go either side of the patient holding her under her armpits, like we used to in 'the bad' old days?

lostinrates

Why would someone who emigrates stop caring about the country they are from? Their family is still there,some of their friends are and often part of their heart is. Who knows where their future is really, whether they will move to a third country or return to the original one, or their kids will.

grizzly1911

Conrad wrote: »

An example of NHS H&S culture diverting staff away from core needs;

Woman in my office MIL has dementia.

In hospital bed next to her an elderly woman weighing about 6 stone needed to go to toilet.

Out came a massive crane and then followed a 20 minute awkward procedure trying to get her into it and to the loo.

That's 20 minutes on one patient needing the loo on a busy ward with many calls on nursing time.

Is society so delicate that we cannot risk a couple of nurses go either side of the patient holding her under her armpits, like we used to in 'the bad' old days?

My MIL was in hospital last year on an Emergency Assessment Unit for 2-3 days.

Woman opposite was yoing and very demanding, had been in some form of domestic. Complained her hair hadn't been washed, this wasn't right, that wasn't right, I know my rights etc.

A very old lady was admitted in next bed from anursing home. Regular vistor according to her daughter. Not making any sense demanding to go to toilet (daughter said it was attention seaking) nurses offered her a bowl/tray to use in bed (with help) as they couldn't keep moving her. Daughter was happy for this compromise but doing stop the "complaining" from patient.

Both patients took up a considerable amount of time and distracted nurses away from more important cases.