Would you pass someone a glass of water

Generali

...not because it's your job but just because they asked?

NHS nurses don't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10138140/Rotten-NHS-culture-led-to-cover-ups.html

And NHS bureaucrats allow them to starve their patients to death and cover it up.

#envyoftheworld

TruckerT

Generali wrote: »

...not because it's your job but just because they asked?

NHS nurses don't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10138140/Rotten-NHS-culture-led-to-cover-ups.html

And NHS bureaucrats allow them to starve their patients to death and cover it up.

#envyoftheworld

As I posted on another thread, the Casino Culture is in danger of being replaced by the Whistle Blower Culture.

It will be interesting to see the outcome...

TruckerT

MacMickster

Nursing has somehow moved from being a vocation to a career. We wanted nurses to take some of the tasks from doctors, and so require academic qualifications ahead of caring qualities.

Add in a few (hundred) bean counters setting numerical targets, because they couldn't figure out how to count the standard of care, and the whole purpose of nurses seems to have been forgotten.

chewmylegoff

Working for a public sector organisation allows you to see the weird obsession with institutional secrecy from the inside. Whilst it is nothing to do with the NHS my employer goes to extraordinary lengths to not reveal information. There is a bizarre lack of transparency which is predicated on what I personally find to be a very strange interpretation of a piece of legislation which is always used as an excuse for non disclosure. FOIA hasn't made a blind bit of difference, although the DPA does at least allow some access to personal data. A strange set of affairs in my view.

The NHS has been shown to be the same with ludicrous gagging orders and injunctions designed to prevent the disclosure of information which is in the public interest. No doubt it is all predicated on whacky interpretations of patient confidentiality - we can't disclose the fact that patients are dying in droves as they wouldn't want you knowing their business!

chewmylegoff

P.s. my experience of seeing people faint on commuter trains and fainting on commuter trains myself is that people generally will pass you a bottle of water and make sure you aren't dead, even if it isn't their job.

TruckerT

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Working for a public sector organisation allows you to see the weird obsession with institutional secrecy from the inside. Whilst it is nothing to do with the NHS my employer goes to extraordinary lengths to not reveal information. There is a bizarre lack of transparency which is predicated on what I personally find to be a very strange interpretation of a piece of legislation which is always used as an excuse for non disclosure. FOIA hasn't made a blind bit of difference, although the DPA does at least allow some access to personal data. A strange set of affairs in my view.

The NHS has been shown to be the same with ludicrous gagging orders and injunctions designed to prevent the disclosure of information which is in the public interest. No doubt it is all predicated on whacky interpretations of patient confidentiality - we can't disclose the fact that patients are dying in droves as they wouldn't want you knowing their business!

Have you ever considered becoming a whistle-blower?

TruckerT

chewmylegoff

TruckerT wrote: »

Have you ever considered becoming a whistle-blower?

TruckerT

I'm too busy dealing with whistle blowers' reports to make my own.

Whistle blowers tend to report because they have something to gain from doing so. I prefer to try to influence from within. So far I have gotten nowhere.

If you are thinking of becoming a whistle blower I suggest finding something to report to the SEC as they will share any penalties they impose as a result with the whistleblower! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

TruckerT

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I'm too busy dealing with whistle blowers' reports to make my own.

Whistle blowers tend to report because they have something to gain from doing so. I prefer to try to influence from within. So far I have gotten nowhere.

If you are thinking of becoming a whistle blower I suggest finding something to report to the SEC as they will share any penalties they impose as a result with the whistleblower! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That is a total cop-out!

TruckerT

michaels

chewmylegoff wrote: »

P.s. my experience of seeing people faint on commuter trains and fainting on commuter trains myself is that people generally will pass you a bottle of water and make sure you aren't dead, even if it isn't their job.

Yes but only because they didn't want the train to be delayed waiting for an ambulance....

lostinrates

Generali wrote: »

...not because it's your job but just because they asked?

NHS nurses don't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10138140/Rotten-NHS-culture-led-to-cover-ups.html

And NHS bureaucrats allow them to starve their patients to death and cover it up.

#envyoftheworld

Today at hospital I was brought a glass of water (ice and lemon?) and offer tea or coffee and a biscuit. I was seen early, because I'd arrived early and he could see me. I'm having the procedure at our earliest mutual convenience to be agreed in the morning, after I had checked with those I needed to check with.

I noticed on the forms one of the options for treatment there after self funding and insurance was nhs. I'm happy for the people that get nhs treatment there .


All that said, its not feasible nor desirable to expect an nhs to fund all that.

Graham_Devon

Generali wrote: »

...not because it's your job but just because they asked?

NHS nurses don't.

99% of NHS nurses would, however.