7.5 tonne on licence?

tight_scotsman

edit anyone who holds 7.5 ton license must have a cpc after sept 2014

james_joyce

Herzlos wrote: »

It'd seem a bit odd if you can drive a 40,000kg truck+trailer combination but not a 3500-8250kg car+trailer combination

Agreed - I wonder if there are really lorry drivers out there who've had to spend £500+ on a B & E test (and training) just so they can tow that car/trailer combination? If so surely this is just a loophole that needs to be closed, so that 'C & E' also gives rights to 'B & E'? Maybe someone in Brussels just overlooked it years ago and it's never been sorted out.

auroan

From what I read and understand (https://www.gov.uk/driver-certificate-of-professional-competence-cpc/overview) you only need a CPC if you are being paid for driving.

Vehicle uses where you don’t need Driver CPC

You don’t need Driver CPC if the vehicle you drive is:

• used for non-commercial carriage of passengers or goods for personal use
• used to carry material or equipment you use for your job - but driving the vehicle can’t be the main part of your job
• used for driving lessons for anyone who wants to get a driving licence or a Driver CPC
• used by, or is under the control of, the armed forces, civil defence, the fire service and forces responsible for maintaining public order
• used in states of emergency or for rescue missions

Rover_Driver

tight_scotsman wrote: »

edit anyone who holds 7.5 ton license must have a cpc after sept 2014

Not everyone, only professional drivers, and it also depends on the use of the vehicle.

tight_scotsman

Rover_Driver wrote: »

Not everyone, only professional drivers, and it also depends on the use of the vehicle.

Yes your right but the rules of who needs one and who doesnt is a very grey area i.e if a mechanic was taking a vehicle for MOT he needs a cpc but if he is carrying his tools with him he doesnt need one very stupid indeed

tight_scotsman

james_joyce wrote: »

Agreed - I wonder if there are really lorry drivers out there who've had to spend £500+ on a B & E test (and training) just so they can tow that car/trailer combination? If so surely this is just a loophole that needs to be closed, so that 'C & E' also gives rights to 'B & E'? Maybe someone in Brussels just overlooked it years ago and it's never been sorted out.

I have D+E which automatically gives me other entitlements i.e B+E

I read today that the DSA and VOSA are merging to try and simplyfy a very complicated system

james_joyce

tight_scotsman wrote: »

I have D+E which automatically gives me other entitlements i.e B+E

I read today that the DSA and VOSA are merging to try and simplyfy a very complicated system

Does D & E mean bus & trailer? That sounds like a difficult test to pass!

tight_scotsman

james_joyce wrote: »

Does D & E mean bus & trailer? That sounds like a difficult test to pass!

Yes its a bus /coach with a trailer its like everything else it just takes to practice to perfect.

megabus use a lot of trailers on thier high capacity long distance coaches due to the amount of luggage.

those bendy type buses are D+E although not a trailer as such it bends in the middle tricky to reverse but with practise it gets easier.

james_joyce

Bendy buses being 'tricky to reverse' sounds like the understatement of the year!

tight_scotsman

james_joyce wrote: »

Bendy buses being 'tricky to reverse' sounds like the understatement of the year!

Most modern bus depots coach station operate a one way system drive in fuel up through the wash then parked up for the next shift even the workshops are like a drive through so there is never really much reversing involved..

The licensing system is stupid in my opinion. I passed my D+E back 1987 in an automatic coach.I then sat a cat D in a manual coach but i cant drive a manual bus/coach if it has a trailer.most modern buses coaches are automatic or have electronic gear boxes like volvos ishift they dont have a clutch pedal but you can still operate the box manually