Housing benefit help please?

Candy53

My daughter is 19, leaves college next week, and starts an apprenticeship in September, 30hrs a week, on minimum wage.

She still lives at home, so if she claimed WTC under the UC would it depend on what the household income is?

Edit: We're not on any benefits.



Thanks,
Candy

sammyjammy

princessdon wrote: »

The fact sheets certainly imply they will receive it, I estimate apprentice workers can gain at least £20 pw, its a good step forward towards encouraging growth.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/universal-credit-will-support-young-people-in-work

I don't disagree in principle, the Apprentice rate is appalling but wouldn't it just be better and cheaper to pay Apprentices an hourly rate equivalent to an extra £20pw rather than make them dependant on the state along with everyone else.

Not having a go at you Princessdon just very frustrating!

Bloody government.

sammyjammy

Candy53 wrote: »

My daughter is 19, leaves college next week, and starts an apprenticeship in September, 30hrs a week, on minimum wage.

She still lives at home, so if she claimed WTC under the UC would it depend on what the household income is?

Edit: We're not on any benefits.



Thanks,
Candy

No her income would be looked at independantly

princessdon

sammyjammy wrote: »

I don't disagree in principle, the Apprentice rate is appalling but wouldn't it just be better and cheaper to pay Apprentices an hourly rate equivalent to an extra £20pw rather than make them dependant on the state along with everyone else.

Not having a go at you Princessdon just very frustrating!

Bloody government.

That would be far too easy :rotfl:

The other thing was that UC has 35 hours (apprenticeships are usually 30), so the disregard hits hard. If anyone works in a live area and knows how this really works it would be good to hear.

zzzLazyDaisy

sammyjammy wrote: »

I don't disagree in principle, the Apprentice rate is appalling but wouldn't it just be better and cheaper to pay Apprentices an hourly rate equivalent to an extra £20pw rather than make them dependant on the state along with everyone else..

I agree, but doing it that way would put the cost up for self-funding employers, whereas doing it this way, the government subsidises the apprentice's wages.

EDIT - I didn't realise UC requirement is 35 hrs per week. Many apprentices are only contracted for 30 hrs a week on the job training, as they are usually on day release at college for one day a week - unless that formal education element is also included for UC purposes?

Candy53

The one day at college is incuded in the 35 hrs.


Candy

Candy53

Mmm, just thort.... my daughter won't get it then, as her apprenticeship is for a teaching assistant, and her hrs will only be 30 including the day at college.


Candy

princessdon

Candy53 wrote: »

Mmm, just thort.... my daughter won't get it then, as her apprenticeship is for a teaching assistant, and her hrs will only be 30 including the day at college.


Candy

My understanding was that they would get it, with a taper as not full time, but I haven't seen it in practice.

Shelldean

interesting reading, althought once again many people will fall between the stools as Lazy Daisy so nicely puts it.
Some apprentices are under 18!!!! my son is (although not for long) But he has a friend whoes birthday is at the end of Aug, so same academic yr as son, but he's not even 17 yet. He also wants to leave, but if the new scheme applied he'd get no extran help for over a yr until e turns 18.


as some one put it ... its the frustration of how it all works out

zzzLazyDaisy

Of course, from Sept 2015 all children will have to remain in ft education until they are 18yrs.