Housing benefit help please?

Own_My_Own

I would get them to check the pre 18 amount again. The household income is going down but the number of people in the house stays the same. Your hub should not go down by that amount.

This benefit site might be of some use to you.

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/benefits_search.aspx

Shelldean

Own_My_Own wrote: »

I would get them to check the pre 18 amount again. The household income is going down but the number of people in the house stays the same. Your hub should not go down by that amount.

This benefit site might be of some use to you.

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/benefits_search.aspx

oh I don't know my brain hurts now :rotfl:

all I know is I called local council housing benefit dept, to ask what proof they'd need from him regarding the job.

I mentioned our HB reducing due to him working - she said his wages aren't taken into account until he is 18 (I was :eek: as that seemed amazing)
But she said his applicable amount would be removed as he is no longer a dependant. His amount is £65. By removing that our excess income rises, (even tho we will loss his CB & CTC) and therefore our share of the rent increases.

Own_My_Own

Shelldean wrote: »

oh I don't know my brain hurts now :rotfl:

all I know is I called local council housing benefit dept, to ask what proof they'd need from him regarding the job.

I mentioned our HB reducing due to him working - she said his wages aren't taken into account until he is 18 (I was :eek: as that seemed amazing)
But she said his applicable amount would be removed as he is no longer a dependant. His amount is £65. By removing that our excess income rises, (even tho we will loss his CB & CTC) and therefore our share of the rent increases.

Your excess income will not really alter. They work that out by taking off what you would get not working from what you get now. When he leaves school both amounts will go down by the same amount.

Shelldean

Own_My_Own wrote: »

Your excess income will not really alter. They work that out by taking off what you would get not working from what you get now. When he leaves school both amounts will go down by the same amount.

he's left!!!!!!! he started new job today.
All a rush and fuss, hence me sitting here past midnight trying to balance the books.

Our income is reduced due to his tax credits and his child benefit being removed. Our applicable amount is reduced by the amount the govt says son needs to live on as he is no longer a dependant.

Our new income figure minus our new applicable amount, gives us an excess which is more than the current one.
So our 65% share of the rent is also more.

Shelldean

well at the end of the day, it's outta my hands now, as the ball is rolling.

I'm going to have to live with it as i'd rather him working and learning a trade then being a layabout.

As I said earlier this was more of a rant than anything else.

Own_My_Own

But if they are not taking his wage into account the family income has gone down by the same amount it would if you we're not working. He still lives at home so you still need the same amount of bedrooms.

Get it rechecked. Housing muck up my claim all the time. I just go back and get it corrected by someone else there. ( as I had to today).

Shelldean

Own_My_Own wrote: »

But if they are not taking his wage into account the family income has gone down by the same amount it would if you we're not working. He still lives at home so you still need the same amount of bedrooms.

Get it rechecked. Housing muck up my claim all the time. I just go back and get it corrected by someone else there. ( as I had to today).

wonder if we have same housing dept??

I am afraid i think my figures are correct.

Our weekly income has dropped by £43 ( just his CTC as CB not considered for HB calc)
But the amount the govt say we need to live on has also dropped by £65 as he is no longer considered a dependant.

This means our excess income has risen by £20 and as the % of the rent we are liable is worked from this figure it means our share is larger.

zzzLazyDaisy

Own_My_Own wrote: »

But if they are not taking his wage into account the family income has gone down by the same amount it would if you we're not working. He still lives at home so you still need the same amount of bedrooms.

Get it rechecked. Housing muck up my claim all the time. I just go back and get it corrected by someone else there. ( as I had to today).

own my own, I think you are giving false hope to OP.

The point is that the son is now an independent person. HB will not pay for his room, he is expected to pay for it himself. AS far as the state is concerned, there is now one less person living in that household for benefits purposes. This has always been the same for private rented, and is now the case for social housing too.

Shelldean

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

own my own, I think you are giving false hope to OP.

The point is that the son is now an independent person. HB will not pay for his room, he is expected to pay for it himself. AS far as the state is concerned, there is now one less person living in that household for benefits purposes. This has always been the same for private rented, and is now the case for social housing too.

LazyDaisy

nope no false hope here all hope is gone LOL:rotfl:

I have resigned myself to the loss of the money, just seems damm unfair that we will be worse off because he has left school for the apprenticeship. Unless I take the majority of his wages he cant cover the shortfall.

Just wish he'd not been so impulsive in leaving school and given me a chance to prepare for this. Then again I wouldn't have been able to save, so I'd have just spent a longer time worrying.

Dunroamin

Shelldean wrote: »

LazyDaisy

nope no false hope here all hope is gone LOL:rotfl:

I have resigned myself to the loss of the money, just seems damm unfair that we will be worse off because he has left school for the apprenticeship. Unless I take the majority of his wages he cant cover the shortfall.

Just wish he'd not been so impulsive in leaving school and given me a chance to prepare for this. Then again I wouldn't have been able to save, so I'd have just spent a longer time worrying.

Although you may not want to take the majority of his wages, if he were to pay around £40 for his keep, that would cover the majority of your loss. In addition, you won't need to be paying for pocket money, clothes or school /college expenses so, overall, you may well find that your income has gone down very little.