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Dissapointed in a family member.

My 26 year old niece was told by the Job Centre 3 months ago that she would need to seek work as her youngest was now at school. Having argued with them that she had no work experience, and felt she would never get a job ( her first child was born when she was 16), they still insisted that she would have to seek work.

Today, she has announced that she is expecting her third child, and openly has admitted that it's because she doesn't want to get a job.

My brother and I are horrified, and feel betrayed by her actions, we were always a hard working family, and she has really let the family down.

Sadly she will get away with it, I wonder if the job centre would issue sanctions if they knew the reason behind her pregnancy?
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  • sorry but this isnt the right area of mse to ask such a question,DT is more suited to discussion about benefits
    but i will just add that its the child i feel sorry for
  • Arachne_2
    Arachne_2 Posts: 411 Forumite
    woodbine wrote: »
    sorry but this isnt the right area of mse to ask such a question,DT is more suited to discussion about benefits
    but i will just add that its the child i feel sorry for

    Same as that, my first thought was, poor kid.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    No sanctions - it's all too common.

    (Although she'll have to carry on looking for work for some months.)
  • OH... this is going to anger a few people on here... I can sense it!
    DEBTFREE AND PROUD!!
  • Sadly she will get away with it, I wonder if the job centre would issue sanctions if they knew the reason behind her pregnancy?

    That sentence contradicts itself.

    You know she'll get away with it.
    You're also asking if she can be sanctioned if the JCP know about this.
  • TOBRUK
    TOBRUK Posts: 2,343 Forumite
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    My 26 year old niece was told by the Job Centre 3 months ago that she would need to seek work as her youngest was now at school. Having argued with them that she had no work experience, and felt she would never get a job ( her first child was born when she was 16), they still insisted that she would have to seek work.

    Today, she has announced that she is expecting her third child, and openly has admitted that it's because she doesn't want to get a job.

    My brother and I are horrified, and feel betrayed by her actions, we were always a hard working family, and she has really let the family down.

    Sadly she will get away with it, I wonder if the job centre would issue sanctions if they knew the reason behind her pregnancy?
    mojos.revenge, I can understand your disappointment, however, even if someone told the job centre the reason behind her pregnancy, you couldn't prove it!

    She had her first child (when she was a child herself) at 16 and has never worked. This doesn't excuse her behaviour, especially while she has had excellent role models as a family who have always worked. She is not alone unfortunately although this doesn't help you as a family as I'm sure can't understand how she doesn't hold your values in life.

    I'm sure many of her age will make excuses and may say that the future is bleak, there are no jobs anyway, unemployment is high, what does it matter etc. I remember the thatcher years when unemployment was higher than it is now, and yes, I was one who 'got on my bike' as that Tory Tebbit told us to do way back then!

    The sad thing is that her children will be brought up with her values (no values) quite possibly. All you can do is try and be a good influence on her children if at all possible. Who knows, your niece may change one day ... could she? How does she support her children ... has she a partner? The thing is she can't carry on having children.

    I understand why it is upsetting for you and the family but you can't help it and there is nothing you can do about it other than try and make her see what she is doing is wrong. She couldn't possibly feel good about herself by upsetting the whole family surely.
  • She is scared of the unknown.
  • Jemma-T
    Jemma-T Posts: 1,546 Forumite
    She is being sanctioned -she'll have to love and care for the child for the rest of its life.

    And it's none of your business I'm sure you could do better things in your own life without poking your nose in others'.
  • Smerka
    Smerka Posts: 2 Newbie
    how does it effect you directly? Sounds abit vindictive to me.
  • welshmoneylover
    welshmoneylover Posts: 3,324 Forumite
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    edited 14 June 2013 at 6:59AM
    Look on the bright side, she can't go on having kids forever!

    Someone I know did more our less the same thing wouldn't work but claimed incapacity benefits all her life before being kicked off.

    Anyway, she,s now living in a flat on her own, moaning she can't get as job as she has no experience! After paying her rent top up, provident loan she claims she's left with just £15 for food toiletries etc.


    So what goes around comes around. She is having a bit of as tough time of it. She's 52 so its probably a miserable time in her life.
    Be happy, it's the greatest wealth :)
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