automatic number plate recognition,

loveablebuilder

hi, just got a ANPR from vehicle control services, for staying longer than 2hrs while shopping, do I appeal or just forget it, ???? . I see that a number of people have got intouch about this company & was it the same firm that was on watchdog???, feel a bit put off by all of this, the stores on this complex are major stores,2 hrs to go round these stores, could not be done, not with my missus,lol, still any advice what to do, mind you, think I will go all the way, just need a bit of a encouragement, know what I mean,lol

HO87

Assuming that the letter you have received is entitled "Notice to Owner" and without disclosing the dates etc did you receive it within 14 days if you count the day they say you were parked as Day 0?

27col

By the way, it's not ANPR. All it is, is a camera on a pole that takes a picture of a car and imprints a time on it.(Sometimes, even an accurate time) There is nothing automatic about it. The PPC send a request the DVLA to obtain the RK's name.
ANPR is a Police System which can access the DVLA database directly. People seem to think that the ANPR concept gives PPC's some legitimacy and this not so.

atilla

27col wrote: »

By the way, it's not ANPR. All it is, is a camera on a pole that takes a picture of a car and imprints a time on it.(Sometimes, even an accurate time) There is nothing automatic about it. The PPC send a request the DVLA to obtain the RK's name.
ANPR is a Police System which can access the DVLA database directly. People seem to think that the ANPR concept gives PPC's some legitimacy and this not so.

Not quite correct is it.

Fergie76

atilla wrote: »

Not quite correct is it.

Instead of just saying it's not quite correct, can you not expand say what is not correct and what is correct?

Newbies will just get confused else...

atilla

Fergie76 wrote: »

Instead of just saying it's not quite correct, can you not expand say what is not correct and what is correct?

Newbies will just get confused else...

ANPR is a system, a generic use of CCTV able to capture and process VRNs often but not necessarily linked to a Database. This is NOT specific to the Police/DVLA

Coupon-mad

atilla wrote: »

ANPR is a system, a generic use of CCTV able to capture and process VRNs often but not necessarily linked to a Database. This is NOT specific to the Police/DVLA

Maybe not, atilla, but I agree with Fergie in that what the scammers call 'ANPR' is not the same real ANPR as used by the Police. I think of the former as a camera on a pole and nothing like real ANPR with a link to the DVLA & insurance database - as used by the BiB.

Anyway we digress. It's a camera and it takes pathetic pics of cars driving in and out!

loveablebuilder wrote: »

hi, just got a ANPR from vehicle control services, for staying longer than 2hrs while shopping, do I appeal or just forget it, ???? . I see that a number of people have got intouch about this company & was it the same firm that was on watchdog???, feel a bit put off by all of this, the stores on this complex are asda, sports direct, currys & pc world. Halfords & a new tkmacs, 2 hrs to go round these stores, could not be done, not with my missus,lol, still any advice what to do, mind you, think I will go all the way, just need a bit of a encouragement, know what I mean,lol

Please answer HO87's question without giving too much detail. Is it s Notice to Owner or a Notice to Keeper, and was it received by day 14?

You can appeal this and win like on all the other PPC scam threads you can read here.

atilla

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Maybe not, atilla, but I agree with Fergie in that what the scammers call 'ANPR' is not the same real ANPR as used by the Police. I think of the former as a camera on a pole and nothing like real ANPR with a link to the DVLA & insurance database - as used by the BiB.

Anyway we digress. It's a camera and it takes pathetic pics of cars driving in and out!

Afraid we'll have to agree to disagree.
Reason being it's what i spend some of my time working on.

Coupon-mad

atilla wrote: »

Afraid we'll have to agree to disagree.
Reason being it's what i spend some of my time working on.

I know, but I still consider the term misleading, same as 'PCN' is misleading. It's all part of the impersonation of authority which I know we agree on.

atilla

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I know, but I still consider the term misleading, same as 'PCN' is misleading. It's all part of the impersonation of authority which I know we agree on.

I agree with the term PCN but ANPR is not specific to the police/autorities. It is, in essence just a glorified CCTV system specifically designed to 'capture' a VRN.
Whether the details of the RK is obtained automatically or by secondary action is not really an issue. The scammers will obtain the information either way.

And these are ones used by not so smart.
http://www.pipstechnology.co.uk/products.php?section_id=1&article_id=2

Buzby

Which begs the question - what does the 'A' in ANPR stand for? It most certainly is not an automated process where the the parking co receives the RK's details.

MNPR anyone?