Realistic Hourly rates for Trades

nickcc

martinthebandit wrote: »

If your getting builders/masons for £100 a day I expect they need lots of supervision!

Fortunately the two we use are probably the best tradesmen we have used for many years and they are both local men. I would expect wages to be considerably higher in different parts of the country but £500 per week before tax etc is considered to be an excellent wage, compared to the average wage of app £15,000 gross per annum, here in Cornwall.

leveller2911

nickcc wrote: »

Fortunately the two we use are probably the best tradesmen we have used for many years and they are both local men. I would expect wages to be considerably higher in different parts of the country but £500 per week before tax etc is considered to be an excellent wage, compared to the average wage of app £15,000 gross per annum, here in Cornwall.

Average wage here is £16k gross but I don't know of any tradesmen who work for £100 a day self employed. Take out all the business costs and it doesn't leave much when you consider being self employed you can lose days/weeks to bad weather, no holiday pay,no sickness pay, laid off with no warning etc etc..

I do wonder if some contractors knowingly pay lower wages as the tax credits (benefits) will stump up the wages in the same way that PAYE companies do.

vinny8467

If I could sub contract to all trades for £100 per day I would be a very happy man!

leveller2911

vinny8467 wrote: »

If I could sub contract to all trades for £100 per day I would be a very happy man!

I pay a decent labourer £115-00 a day........Skilled (time served) chippies , Plumbers/heating engineers, brickies and sparkies are anything from £175-£240 a day. Plasterers and decent decorators are around £145-£160 a day...

southcoastrgi

you just knew i was gonna pop up sooner or later on this thread.

to set up any kind of company you need to know something about the work you will be involved in & looking at the list of trades you need it's doesn't seem to me you have a scooby doo about the building game.

so if i were to take a guess you are either a property developer or plan on project managing, now to do either of those you need to know at least a little of what you are talking about, because if you don't then the trades & the customers are going to get mighty fed up with you mighty quick, when you get the trades in a week before the job is ready for them, unless you plan on asking every trade to price the job your costings are going to be way out,

the building game isn't something to get into unless you know what you are talking about, unless of course you like being chased up the road by a little bald bloke

vinny8467

Southcoastrgi, you will be surprised what I do know but thanks for your post. And as for the little bald bloke chasing me up the road, this may be a solent fettish but it definitely will not be happening to me...haha!

DirectDebacle

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Furts

I have been shot down before when mentioning rates of pay. The reality is many areas of the country are struggling in this recession. For a contract last year carpenters, roofers, plasterers, painters were asking £80 per day. Some labour was travelling, some even better skilled, some coming through a sub contractor who naturally had a mark up. I did not pay above £115 for anyone. Plus, for these rates some labour was working up to 10 hours per day - they regarded a day by what had to be done. All labour was of a good standard, non came from outside UK.

woodbutcher_2

leveller2911 wrote: »

I pay a decent labourer £115-00 a day........Skilled (time served) chippies , Plumbers/heating engineers, brickies and sparkies are anything from £175-£240 a day. Plasterers and decent decorators are around £145-£160 a day...

I wish.

That may be the case in Sussex but myself (joiner) and my mate (bricky), both time served with lots of experience are charging £120 per day at the moment. Just about ticking over.

The South is another country to the one i live in.


It's grim oop t'north.

leveller2911

woodbutcher wrote: »

I wish.

That may be the case in Sussex but myself (joiner) and my mate (bricky), both time served with lots of experience are charging £120 per day at the moment. Just about ticking over.

The South is another country to the one i live in.


It's grim oop t'north.

Site work down here is cut throat and I'm sure the site rates are less.

All the sole traders and partnerships down here seem fairly busy.. Good luck Woodbutcher hope it picks up soon, wish you luck .

Its strange down here as there is money about but where I live (Rother District ) the average wage is £16k a year as many work in service industries.