JSA Unfair sanction

Undisputedtruth

Claimants 'tricked' out of benefits, says Jobcentre whistleblower -- The Guardian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce03wVyddCY

The Guardian article to the video can be found here http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/01/jobcentres-tricking-people-benefit-sanctions

bonnie43uk

You can tell by the number of posts posted, this is a hot topic, totally unfair sanction from what I've read.. ( not updating a CV) .. Do me a favour, .. thats utterly ridiculous. As others have posted, .. this has nothing to do with your CV, it's all about saving money, what they dont realize ( or maybe they do, in which case it's even more callous), is that sanctioning causes utter distress for the person involved, they dont get much anyway, and to remove what little they get is nasty and pernicious. Absolutely you should appeal. I hope you get your money ASAP.
Grrrrrrr:mad::mad::mad:

edsjad

Just read most of thread - not all so apols if anyone else has said this. My advice is not to wait for appeal form. go into job centre and do it there and then and give it back all on same day. don't waste time. I was sanctioned for a week for something that was half my fault. when i saw the advisor, she said, 'see you on ...date for interview' i said which day is that and she said 'tuesday'. I attended the tuesday and was told i should have been there the day before. They had told me the wrong day verbally but i hadn't double checked the date myself. I got a letter from housing ben almost immediately telling me that had been stopped. went to jc, wrote all this down ie did attend, but on wrong day and luckily benefit reinstated. luckily crisis loans possible then. I'm scared to death of this happening again. Anyway, get going with your appeal NOW

edsjad

osdset wrote: »

The OP can expect a long wait for any kind of redress at appeal, waiting lists for tribunals are hitting the one year mark. Sanctions are instant appeals are not which is one of the main reasons very few JSA appeals are taken up by claimants.

just a query - i think tribunals are the next step up arent they, after your appeal has been quashed? See my post re appeal. Didn't take long - though that was mid last year.

osdset

edsjad wrote: »

just a query - i think tribunals are the next step up arent they, after your appeal has been quashed? See my post re appeal. Didn't take long - though that was mid last year.

Appeals are held by tribunals after a reconsideration has gone against the claimant, JCP/DWP cannot conduct appeals.

ionracas

I feel i need to air this so people who are on JSA know all about it.
background info been disabled since 1995 with lupus/cancer/arthritis etc, been on and off the work programme, finished work in January 2012 when i found out i had cancer, had to have 2 ops to cut it out my back so now have problems on my left side.

I went to sign on friday Cannock jcp, and it looks like i have a sanction, the adviser used the excuse that other people are applying for the vacancies you should be to, (know these vacancies require driving licence/car/heavy lifting, and already working in the role, and experience - none which i can do or have) when i challenged him if these "other" people have the same disabilities has me, he looked at me like i was crap and i got total silence, he then made False Allegations against me that I am not doing job search/ inventing my illness and I am just listing websites on my job log, i was fuming by the time he had finished slandering me

I then had to come back two hours later to see someone else, by this time my feet were killing me to the point i could hardly walk, and she implied to me ( i couldn't get her to get off the fence) you had to be fit enough to do the jobs, which then made me think well what about all the people they moved from ESA to JSA?, or if your a Muslim is it work with pork or get a sanction?

I feel like I'm being made a scapegoat of they miss their targets, never mind lets pick on the disabled. Since march i have been at college taking level 2 in computing to help me get a job, and sending spec letters to companies when i could find nothing to apply for but it seems these don't count.

So i have been forced to starting next week claiming ESA, as the job centres view is you have to be able to do the job there is no way at the moment i can stay on JSA, and nor can i compete with able bodied people, i tried that in 2011, and got told i was not quick enough.

At the present moment i hate this country and i hate this government and i cant wait for them to be out of power.

skintmacflint

ionracas wrote: »

At the present moment i hate this country and i hate this government and i cant wait for them to be out of power.

Sorry to hear of your troubles and hope your ESA claim goes ok. If your health is severely limiting you in being able to work this would seem like the correct benefit for you to be on.

But it isn't going to make any difference who is in power after the next election. Labour have already said they won't be in a position to change any of the welfare changes, and will need to cut further. UK is broke and will continue to be for a considerable time to come.

osdset

UK is broke and will continue to be for a considerable time to come.

Or so we have been drip fed to believe, tell a lie enough and it becomes perceived as the truth.

On the one hand the UK is the seventh richest nation in the world, on the other there are a reported half a million people are dependent on free, charity food handouts from food banks.

Austerity only effects the poor, show me one MP that has pulled their belt in and put up with having their income slashed to the bone.

There is no less amount of cash sloshing about than there was ten years ago it's just been re-distributed among the top 1% of society. For them to have more we must accept less.

It's not Britain that's broke it's the system of government that's broken.

Dunroamin

ionracas wrote: »

I feel i need to air this so people who are on JSA know all about it.
background info been disabled since 1995 with lupus/cancer/arthritis etc, been on and off the work programme, finished work in January 2012 when i found out i had cancer, had to have 2 ops to cut it out my back so now have problems on my left side.

I went to sign on friday Cannock jcp, and it looks like i have a sanction, the adviser used the excuse that other people are applying for the vacancies you should be to, (know these vacancies require driving licence/car/heavy lifting, and already working in the role, and experience - none which i can do or have) when i challenged him if these "other" people have the same disabilities has me, he looked at me like i was crap and i got total silence, he then made False Allegations against me that I am not doing job search/ inventing my illness and I am just listing websites on my job log, i was fuming by the time he had finished slandering me

I then had to come back two hours later to see someone else, by this time my feet were killing me to the point i could hardly walk, and she implied to me ( i couldn't get her to get off the fence) you had to be fit enough to do the jobs, which then made me think well what about all the people they moved from ESA to JSA?, or if your a Muslim is it work with pork or get a sanction?

I feel like I'm being made a scapegoat of they miss their targets, never mind lets pick on the disabled. Since march i have been at college taking level 2 in computing to help me get a job, and sending spec letters to companies when i could find nothing to apply for but it seems these don't count.

So i have been forced to starting next week claiming ESA, as the job centres view is you have to be able to do the job there is no way at the moment i can stay on JSA, and nor can i compete with able bodied people, i tried that in 2011, and got told i was not quick enough.

At the present moment i hate this country and i hate this government and i cant wait for them to be out of power.

You shouldn't expect that doing a course should be accepted as job hunting.

skintmacflint

osdset wrote: »

Or so we have been drip fed to believe, tell a lie enough and it becomes perceived as the truth.

Only time I'm drip fed , is when savouring some Talisker on a nice evening tbh.