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Lloyds TSB Split

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  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    JuicyJesus wrote: »
    Your terms and conditions say otherwise. Can't be arsed to dig out the Lloyds TSB terms right now but they will say something along the lines of "blah blah we can assign our rights and responsibilities under this agreement to someone else blah blah".
    Well obviously a bank in difficulties can't just transfer a load of its liabilities to another company, created for the purpose of going bankrupt, and then carry on with a much improved balance sheet.

    A bank might like to think of its customers as business assets, but customers aren't just fees and charges, and their deposits are liabilities.

    LTSB couldn't do this under normal contract law, they had to get special approval from the courts, after canvassing objections. I don't know what statute that came under, but it's a very dubious bit of law. If we hadn't got FSCS, there might have been a lot of objections, on the grounds that there was no guarantee TSB would be solvent and viable.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • stclair
    stclair Posts: 6,853 Forumite
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    If you open a TSB account now will it actually be TSB branded or will they just rebrand it afterwards.
    Im an ex employee RBS Group
    However Any Opinion Given On MSE Is Strictly My Own
  • jonesMUFCforever
    jonesMUFCforever Posts: 28,898 Forumite
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    stclair wrote: »
    If you open a TSB account now will it actually be TSB branded or will they just rebrand it afterwards.
    At the moment it will be LloydsTsb until separation sometime in August/September I think.
  • MoneySaverLog
    MoneySaverLog Posts: 3,232 Forumite
    Will the new owner keep the TSB brand name or will they change it again?
  • stclair
    stclair Posts: 6,853 Forumite
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    Will the new owner keep the TSB brand name or will they change it again?

    Their keeping it for now. I'm actually quiet looking forward to seeing TSB on the high street again.
    Im an ex employee RBS Group
    However Any Opinion Given On MSE Is Strictly My Own
  • jonesMUFCforever
    jonesMUFCforever Posts: 28,898 Forumite
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    If you like the TSB brand that much it looks like you will get the oportunity to buy some shares when it is floated on the stock exchange.
  • JuicyJesus
    JuicyJesus Posts: 3,831 Forumite
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    stclair wrote: »
    Their keeping it for now. I'm actually quiet looking forward to seeing TSB on the high street again.

    I'm looking forward to the OMG WHAT DOES THE TSB CARD LOOK LIKE threads that are going to be all over this forum like genital warts in a few months' time.
    urs sinserly,
    ~~joosy jeezus~~
  • Lith
    Lith Posts: 897 Forumite
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    On the website, it says my Lloyds TSB branch won't be sold off...

    so what does this mean ? i will stay with Lloyds then ? or Lloyds TSB still be around or ...??
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  • JuicyJesus
    JuicyJesus Posts: 3,831 Forumite
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    Lith wrote: »
    On the website, it says my Lloyds TSB branch won't be sold off...

    so what does this mean ? i will stay with Lloyds then ? or Lloyds TSB still be around or ...??

    You're staying with Lloyds, who will rebrand as Lloyds Bank.
    urs sinserly,
    ~~joosy jeezus~~
  • System
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    It used to require a private Act of (the Westminster) Parliament but I believe it was also added to the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 and this process is more commonly used.

    The transfer of the Lloyds TSB accounts to Lloyds TSB Scotland was approved by The Court of Session on the 27 March 2013.
    pqrdef wrote: »
    Well obviously a bank in difficulties can't just transfer a load of its liabilities to another company, created for the purpose of going bankrupt, and then carry on with a much improved balance sheet.

    A bank might like to think of its customers as business assets, but customers aren't just fees and charges, and their deposits are liabilities.

    LTSB couldn't do this under normal contract law, they had to get special approval from the courts, after canvassing objections. I don't know what statute that came under, but it's a very dubious bit of law. If we hadn't got FSCS, there might have been a lot of objections, on the grounds that there was no guarantee TSB would be solvent and viable.
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