Will my partner have to pay csa?

Ivy89

And no it doesn't make it morally right but if I am able to provide for my child in a safe and legal way then I think I should be able to. I've tried to work its not like I plan on staying this way forever its just whilst times are tight. When baby is old enough I will find another job. I don't want to stay on benefits for the rest of my life. It's humiliating. I can't comprehend how my neighbours and their families have gotten away with it and found every loophole not to work , and frankly I wouldn't want to live my life that way.

Mojisola

Ivy89 wrote: »

We are sorted out I just simply am not ready to move in with someone and have a new baby all in The same time. I saw this as being the more sensible choice especially as if we did we would not be financially able to cope at all.

Being able to claim benefits is becoming such an automatic default position that people don't take personal responsibility. If two adults can't cope financially, perhaps bringing a new person into the world isn't a good idea?

Over recent years governments have been changing the benefit system to help families with children to the point when people can have children knowing that the taxpayer will fund them.

Because it's politically difficult to withdraw these benefits (outcries of "Won't somebody think of the children!"), savings are having to be made from other areas so people who are sick or disabled are having their benefits withdrawn while fit and healthy adults can chose to have children but not live together so that their incomes can be boosted by the taxpayer.

Yes, you are entitled to claim IS as a single parent even though you and the father are "partners". It's wrong.

Marisco

Ivy89 wrote: »

I just simply am not ready to move in with someone and have a new baby all in The same time.

With someone??? Isn't he your boyfriend/partner? You should have moved in with him, saved a bit and then had a baby!

Ivy89

My apologies of course I meant partner , don't be so childish and picky. If you read the rest of my posts rather than just giving your little opinion it was not planned to have the baby yet. Things happen dispite the precautions you use and I'm not the type of person to have an abortion. We were talking about moving in together it just hadnt happened before I got pregnant and I don't think we can afford living together with baby at the moment.

As I said before I DID save. That's how I managed to get everything for my baby ready. I'd started saving previously as we planned on going on holiday but then I got pregnant and that and my last paycheck went on baby.

This is not supposed to be a discussion whether or not its morally right though. You say about withdrawing the money from the sick I get why that is wrong -as I said my neighbour claims fraudulently as he's supposedly blind but until his appointments he can see perfectly fine(during which he whips out his glasses and stick and has awful awful eyesight). My mother had a mental breakdown and couldn't claim and my grandmother when she was diagnosed with leukemia was refused disability - and now she's dead so I don't know what makes you more unable to work and in need of money. And both of them had been workers not benefit hungry people. But like I said this is not a discussion on what is right and wrong. I need to provide for my baby and this is the only alternative and ultimately if people who aren't gonna be benefit hungry people who stay on the dole all their lives to scam the system can't claim when they need to then what is the point of the system?.

Marisco

Ivy89 wrote: »

I need to provide for my baby and this is the only alternative

No it's not.

Ivy89

Would you rather me move in my partner , end up losing the house and having to claim a council house instead? Because that's what would happen if we moved in together straight away.

Mojisola

Ivy89 wrote: »

Would you rather me move in my partner , end up losing the house and having to claim a council house instead? Because that's what would happen if we moved in together straight away.

You could post of SOA of your and your partner's income and expenses. I'm sure the people on the Debt Free board would be able to show you how to save enough money so that you could live together as a family.

kevin137

@Ivy89

It is not an ideal situation, and personally i am nearly always against claiming benefit... I don't like the system, i think it is abused, and i think that most people take the p**s...

However, you asked a question, and i gave what i think is an honest answer, i don't think you would be breaking the law regardless of what others say, it doesn't work that way...

Morally, you have to do what you think is right, short term, i think you need to claim, it sounds like you already have a claim for jobseekers and it will simply move over to something else.

If in any doubt, ASK the jobcentre what they think, if you ask simply, i have a boyfriend, but we don't live together, does that mean for the purposes of a claim i am not single, then what do i do? Then you will get some clarification...

You will of done nothing wrong and they will advise you accordingly, you have NO obligation to give his name, not to the Job centre or the CSA...

But as many others have said, it is not always the best place to be, benefits make people judge you...

As for your anxiety, i understand what this means, my g/f has a serious case of this, and she doesn't drive... Never learnt... So public transport is possible, but not easy...

The only thing i would say is, a car is NOT a necessity, far from it, and if you are on benefits, then you should not be able to run a car...!!! That is not what the system is for...! Benefits are for the bare essentials and that does wind me up...

Hope you think i am being fair with what i say and think, and hope you get it sorted whatever you do...

FBaby

And another case of 'I fell pregnant but of course it was an accident, contraceptive failures', those who only seem to happen to those who then want to claim benefits.

Another case of 'why should I move in with my partner, the father of my children, if I can get more money being apart'.

Another case of 'I couldn't possibly live without a car and I should be entitled to one'.

I'm sorry OP, I know it sounds like you are being attacked, but you are clearly missed learning one essential value in life which is 'I shall take care of my decisions, mistakes, choices' and support myself and family.

You might think you are being responsible by staying at home claiming benefits, but as long as your decisions mean you rely on benefits, you are not being responsible.

In any case, you are welcome to ignore my advice about claiming as a single parent, but don't come back here in a few months to post that you don't understand why you are being investigated and accused of claiming fraudulently.

FBaby

If in any doubt, ASK the jobcentre what they think, if you ask simply, i have a boyfriend, but we don't live together, does that mean for the purposes of a claim i am not single, then what do i do? Then you will get some clarification...

I don't think that is the question you should ask. You should instead say: I have a partner, we have been together for x time, I have a baby by him, we love each other very much and do things together, however, we can't afford to live together right at this time, so I would like to claim as a single parent until we can somehow increase our income/reduce our outgoings, and when we can get more disposable income that we currently have by me claiming as a single parent, we will move in together. Is this permitted?