Job Centre Rant

princessdon

What is the problem

The JSA agreement said to x y and z. It may not suit OP but they agreed with it and didn't do Y.

They now know to do Y and will.

People need to realise that JC staff are not there to find their job, no their to help with a job, merely to facilitate the agreement.

I cannot remember the last time I didn't get a letter, yet a lot of Job seekers loose theirs. Perhaps the JC need to move to email and text to ensure it was sent, it seems a lot of problems rely on RM who repeatedly let them down, so move to a more reliable method in the 21 st century including, KIK, FB and social media and communications.

missapril75

john539 wrote: »

For other groups of workers, that isn't offloaded onto the unemployed, poor, sick & vulnerable.

That's just silly.

Benefits, Sanctions and Job Seekers agreements, directions....is there another group of workers that has to administer these things then?
Brickies? Plumbers? Shop staff?

Just silly.

Cloudydaze

No, I don't expect the Job Centre to find me a job or sit through and discuss the ins and out of my career profile. I thought i had to prove i was looking for work. I thought having arranged 4 interviews I had proved i was looking for work. I was ranting about the COMPLETE AND UTTER POINTLESSNESS of having to do x to find a job when I know the best way to find a job is y.

I now know that common sense doesn't apply. I now know that to claim JSA, I have to go through the motions so boxes can be ticked and targets met.

Just to clarify, I certainly do not think I am better than anyone else. I do not think I should be treated differently from anyone else because I was wearing a suit. I was merely commenting on the irony of the situation. Me rushing in from interview and getting warning for being late. Lady next to me rolls out of bed still wearing pyjamas but arrives on time. She got it right, I didn't.

Hudson1984 wrote: »

If you are this confident could I ask how come it has gotten to this point? i'm not really in the know with redundancies, can they tell you on the day? if not then presumably you were given notice that it was going to happen surely you had time to prepare beforehand

I actually got made redundant a couple of months ago but decided for various reasons not to start actively looking for a new job until recently.

fedupnow

Why are the advisors called personal advisors if they don't offer personal advice?

Hudson1984

fedupnow wrote: »

Why are the advisors called personal advisors if they don't offer personal advice?

I think the job centre would have to pay their staff much higher salaries if they were expected to know every job market and the best way to attack it.

I'm sorry but you're attitude to this is to blame here and not your advisor - Yes the woman in the pyjamas was in the right, she met the stipulations required of her to get her money - You're expecting an organisation to give you money and not complain when you don't stick to the requirements of getting that money?!

you have yourself to blame, you got a telling off for being naughty...suck it up a bit!

Cloudydaze

Hudson1984 wrote: »

I'm sorry but you're attitude to this is to blame here and not your advisor - Yes the woman in the pyjamas was in the right, she met the stipulations required of her to get her money - You're expecting an organisation to give you money and not complain when you don't stick to the requirements of getting that money?!

you have yourself to blame, you got a telling off for being naughty...suck it up a bit!

Hmmm, I'm sorry if having the attitude of wanting to maximise my chances of getting a job upsets you. It's not just any old organisation handing out the money is it? - it's taxpayers money which is in short supply at the moment. I was just pointing out that the requirements aren't fit for purpose. It's actually MUCH easier to meet the requirements, than it is to actually put the effort in to get a job.

Frankly, it's a bit of joke but I'll play along.

Hudson1984

Cloudydaze wrote: »

Hmmm, I'm sorry if having the attitude of wanting to maximise my chances of getting a job upsets you. It's not just any old organisation handing out the money is it? - it's taxpayers money which is in short supply at the moment. I was just pointing out that the requirements aren't fit for purpose. It's actually MUCH easier to meet the requirements, than it is to actually put the effort in to get a job.

Frankly, it's a bit of joke but I'll play along.

ok so lets all pay more tax so we can have the best recruitment advisors in the busniess to cater to every single person who walks into the job centre, give everyone all the time they require and actively find them work.... I really can't see how that would be practical.

You wanted to take a break from work when you were made redundant you could've looked while you had the notice given you put yourself in this position and are now ranting about having to do something different to the guidlines which yes are not catered to you personally but a generic system that makes it simpler to handle the numbers that go through the system.

I'm sure it's not perfect and heaven forbid you have to do a little bit extra, it seems you need to grow up a touch here

Cloudydaze

I think you have completely misunderstood every point I have been trying to make!!!

fedupnow

Mm. Interesting view points.

I think it is in all our interests to want the system to be as effective as possible.

The mention of 'targets' and 'boxes to tick' suggests it's more about justifying claims than finding jobs. Would that be a fair comment?

Perhaps 'personal advisor' is the wrong/misleading job title. Perhaps 'claim approval specialist'.

I do think it's ridiculous to get a warning for being late when he was at a job interview. I understand the 'advisor' had to explain what s/he was up to and missed targets etc ... but that means the system is flawed. It must be very dis-heartening for the claimant and the box-ticker.

Hudson1984

If I had a JC interview booked so close to an interview I would have phoned to rearrange, as I would have done if it were an interview for a normal job - how would the OP expect a prospective employer to react to the same excuse??

so now everyone needs to wear a suit to the jobcentre? no I don't think the pyjamas where appropriate but then I don't think a suit is appropriate either but my idea of smart could be very different to someone elses doesn't make me smarter than them for example a painter and decorator could've been doing some casual work before his JC meeting and go to the office in paint covered overals surely this should be acceptable as it is his workwear much the same as a suit! yes pyjamas are pushing it but still.

it's not about showing more initiative in their work efforts it's about following the given guildlines and those guidlines were broken. If the guidlines stated that candidates are required to attend the Job centre in smart attire then that would also be a discussion point but I don't think it is.

I've never used the job centre to find work and never would for much the same reason as the OP - they don't have the jobs i'm looking for. But then if I were to use them I wouldn't complain when i've been pulled up for not following their rules. A phone call could've solved this