Renting a place when on benefits

monty-doggy

No need for sarcasm I am entitled as is everyone else to my own opinion. You got lucky, I am sure there are many who don't.

Talc1234

monty-doggy wrote: »

No need for sarcasm I am entitled as is everyone else to my own opinion. You got lucky, I am sure there are many who don't.

yes Monty, and there are lots of lovely shared houses if you look. However sharing requires a degree of tolerance so maybe not suitable for everyone. Fully respecting your right to your own opinion as well as mine to be sarcastic.

Voyager2002

Thank you for the advice, everyone.

I have had lots of experiences sharing houses and flats, nearly all of them positive. Most people are considerate about clearing up their mess in shared areas, and it is good to have people around when you feel like a chat. The only stage in your life when you really need your own private place is when you are in a couple and/or have children: being forced to share then would indeed be dreadful.

As it happens I live in my own home at the moment, but my post refers to two homeless people who stay as my guests from time to time.

gazter

theartfullodger wrote: »

Dave & his chums are making life harder for those on benefits - eg most councils no longer give 100% council-tax benefit...

'sfunny how those being paid £1m pay less tax now with Dave - I think £40k+ less tax each year...

Cheers!

Actually no, you are wrong.

Income tax paid on a £1 million salary:

2009/10: £389,930.00
2013/14: £436,098.00

Funny how those being paid £1m pay more tax with Dave, about £46,000 more tax.

Cheers.

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gazter wrote: »

Actually no, you are wrong.

Income tax paid on a £1 million salary:

2009/10: £389,930.00
2013/14: £436,098.00

Funny how those being paid £1m pay more tax with Dave, about £46,000 more tax.

Cheers.

May 10th 2010 was when Cameron assumed office, the earliest the Conservatives could have affected income tax was for the 2011 / 2012 tax year, as 2010 / 2011 was already set by the time he came into office.

2007 / 2008 £404,327
2008 / 2009 £404,034
2009 / 2010 £403,691
2010 / 2011 £491,279
2011 / 2012 £501,381
2012 / 2013 £501,463
2013 / 2014 £459,312

So under Cameron total deductions went up by £10,102 and then down by £42,151. Taxes are up relative to the majority of Labours leadership however they were increased by Labour in the last year and have been decreased by the Conservatives since then.

gazter

citricsquid wrote: »

May 10th 2010 was when Cameron assumed office, the earliest the Conservatives could have affected income tax was for the 2011 / 2012 tax year, as 2010 / 2011 was already set by the time he came into office.

2007 / 2008 £404,327
2008 / 2009 £404,034
2009 / 2010 £403,691
2010 / 2011 £491,279
2011 / 2012 £501,381
2012 / 2013 £501,463
2013 / 2014 £459,312

So under Cameron total deductions went up by £10,102 and then down by £42,151. Taxes are up relative to the majority of Labours leadership however they were increased by Labour in the last year and have been decreased by the Conservatives since then.

Let me explain it a bit easier for people to understand. For the entire term of the Labour Government, thirteen years, minus one month, the top rate of income tax was 40%.
For their last month in office this was put up to 50%.

The coalition kept this rate until two months ago when this 50% was moved down to 45%.

Remember, this 45% is still 5% higher than the entire labour term in office.

Why do you think it wasnt increased until the end of their term? Because they knew it to be counterproductive.

Which is why it has been lowered. The Government didnt have the courage to put it back to what it should be 40%.

So, Dave and his chums are charging higher rate tax payers 5 p in the pound more than his predecessors.

sandsni

Interesting as the debate on higher band tax rates is, I doubt if it's helping the OP.

OP, if your friends are genuinely homeless then the council may be able to help with accommodation. Otherwise you could try local papers for private LLs who might be in a position to let to people on benefits (but if they're halfway decent LLs they will likely still want to do reference and credit checks. The ones who don't could turn out not to know or care about their responsibilities as LLs).

Have you tried any homeless charities locally who might have contacts with LLs willing to give someone a chance?

Manchee

monty-doggy wrote: »

I wouldn't expect the same lifestyle however I wouldn't want to share with strangers! I can't stand other people's mess, and what happens if they have loads of friends round or are dirty or untrustworthy or any number of things! Now I am working I have my own house, but if I needed help I would at least expect a one bed flat to myself! A one bed flat is hardly the same lifestyle as someone working and having a house!

Just what planet are you on?? I earn an ok-ish wage and I can only just about swing running a 1 bedroom flat by myself. And thats without a massive sky package or a car or constant nights out. Why on earth should I have to work 40 hours a week (which to me is a fair exchange for my privacy and peace) when someone can get the same just by sitting round on JSA? And yes, before anyone says it, I have lived on JSA before, and no I wouldn't have been able to afford my 1 bed flat and didn't expect to.

Too bad if you don't want to share with strangers, millions of people have done it as students and millions more still do it into adulthood. Its not like some kind of Orwellian nightmare where you are assigned housing, if you end up living with a bunch of d!cks thats your own fault for not properly interviewing who you intend to move in with. And with a standard 6 months tenancy its not like you're stuck with it forever.

gazter

Manchee wrote: »

Just what planet are you on?? I earn an ok-ish wage and I can only just about swing running a 1 bedroom flat by myself. And thats without a massive sky package or a car or constant nights out. Why on earth should I have to work 40 hours a week (which to me is a fair exchange for my privacy and peace) when someone can get the same just by sitting round on JSA? And yes, before anyone says it, I have lived on JSA before, and no I wouldn't have been able to afford my 1 bed flat and didn't expect to.

Too bad if you don't want to share with strangers, millions of people have done it as students and millions more still do it into adulthood. Its not like some kind of Orwellian nightmare where you are assigned housing, if you end up living with a bunch of d!cks thats your own fault for not properly interviewing who you intend to move in with. And with a standard 6 months tenancy its not like you're stuck with it forever.

Here here.

monty-doggy

My god I was merely stating that when I needed to claim housing benefit, I was entitled to a one bed flat, and that I was suprised there is now an age related criteria. I don't expect anything to be a given right and you have blown it out of context.
One thing I hate about these forums is the large number of people who love to throw attitude about, shoot people down and be downright rude!