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MSE News: Energy bill discount for those living near wind farms

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  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    Found it.

    This is how the Gunfleet Sands turbines actually look.

    http://goo.gl/maps/lA3ul

    I even found a bench for scale!

    That's Clacton; that's miles away from where I live!
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    Wywth wrote: »
    That's Clacton; that's miles away from where I live!

    Did I get the right wind turbines? Clacton seemed closest to them but I'd be happy to see the view from closer to where you are.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    edited 24 May 2013 at 2:21PM
    I'm not sure what you are attempting to demonstate, gadgetmind. :huh:

    But here is a wider view of the locality care of google. As you can see it was taken in 2009 (before the erection of the wind turbines).


    20091l.jpg
  • callum9999
    callum9999 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
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    Wywth wrote: »
    Do we qualify? I'm sure we are the nearest house to this windfarm.

    We used to enjoy such beautiful views but have been blighted by these monstrosities for a few years now. Can the payments be backdated?

    windfarml.jpg

    I quite like the look of wind turbines.

    Though regardless, it's certainly preferable to being underwater - which is what the nice lawn in your picture will be sooner rather than later if climate change isn't tackled any time soon...
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    callum9999 wrote: »
    I quite like the look of wind turbines.
    Each to their own, I suppose but have you thought why this article is reporting a financial sweetener to those who are blighted by living close to windfarms?
    callum9999 wrote: »
    Though regardless, it's certainly preferable to being underwater - which is what the nice lawn in your picture will be sooner rather than later if climate change isn't tackled any time soon...

    What perhaps isn't clear from that photo is that there is a huge drop down to sea level. There isn't enough water in the world to raise the sea level by that amount ;)

    And you still need other forms of electricity generation unless you are prepared for the lights to go out on non-windy days.
  • gadgetmind
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    Wywth wrote: »
    I'm not sure what you are attempting to demonstate, gadgetmind. :huh:

    That the camera shouldn't always necessarily be trusted as high power lenses can be deceptive.

    I chose Clacton on Sea as it seems closest to the turbines, but even from there they are indistinct specs in the distance unless you zoom.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    edited 24 May 2013 at 3:05PM
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    That the camera shouldn't always necessarily be trusted as high power lenses can be deceptive.

    I chose Clacton on Sea as it seems closest to the turbines, but even from there they are indistinct specs in the distance unless you zoom.

    The photo is not taken with any high power, telescopic, zoom lens. (It's just a simple lens, yes zoomed in a tiny bit to remove the road from the foreground)

    I'm no great photographer, but how do you explain the clarity of the benches in the foreground of the photo I posted if the you think the turbines are just "indistinct specs in the distance"? :huh:

    However I do accept lenses can distort images, as the wide angle google photo I posted illustrates.
  • gadgetmind
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    Wywth wrote: »
    how do you explain the clarity of the benches in the foreground of the photo I posted if the you think the turbines are just "indistinct specs in the distance"? :huh:

    The benches are close and the turbines are far far away. About 7km away if wikipedia is to be believed, and that's from Clacton so they are much further away from Frinton.

    Of course, I'm not saying they aren't visible, just that they are distant and unobtrusive.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • LesU
    LesU Posts: 338 Forumite
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    Any area that fights against wind turbines should go straight to the top of the list for a shiny new nuclear power station!

    So when did all of the other alternatives get shelved?

    What a shame we can't use tidal power, us being an island surrounded by guaranteed twice daily tides every day of the year, come rain or shine. Indeed, in some areas we are talking about tides which are the second highest in the world.

    I still believe that wind power has been heavily promoted behind the scenes by the nuclear industry. It's the only way of generating electricity that makes nuclear look good.
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    LesU wrote: »
    What a shame we can't use tidal power, us being an island surrounded by guaranteed twice daily tides every day of the year, come rain or shine.

    Because the nimbys managed to get the Severn Barrage shelved.
    I still believe that wind power has been heavily promoted behind the scenes by the nuclear industry. It's the only way of generating electricity that makes nuclear look good.

    Coal and oil also do a rather good job of that.

    BTW, I can recommend reading "Sustainable Energy without the hot air" if you want to understand how all the various sources of energy could play a part in a carbon free future.

    http://www.withouthotair.com/

    It's no easy, and we have as much of a power problem as an energy problem, and will almost need an "all of the above" approach to renewables. It's also going to be *very* hard to transition without nuclear.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
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