Net migration down nearly 100,000 over the year

ILW

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Well, obviously I don't consider 4% "too much".



Or a lot lower if you take areas like London out.

Seriously, why bother making statements like that?

"If you exclude a big part of the UK, it would be higher/lower. "

So what?

Because fairly large areas such as the Highlands are not suitable for much housing development.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ILW wrote: »

Because fairly large areas such as the Highlands are not suitable for much housing development.

Inverness is in the Highlands and is one of the fastest growing towns in Scotland.

A lot of new housing going up all over the highlands in fact.

Mr._Pricklepants

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Inverness is one of the fastest growing towns in Scotland.

A lot of new housing going up all over the highlands.

That's terrible news for grass snakes and slow worms.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »

That's terrible news for grass snakes and slow worms.

But brilliant news for people.

Percy1983

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It's been explained to you throughout the thread that nobody is looking to keep increasing population forever, just to allow time to transition to a different system while maintaining living standards and the economy.

Is there a reason you refuse to listen?

I agree we can't just flip a switch, but what time scales are you thinking, and how do you propose its done?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Percy1983 wrote: »

I agree we can't just flip a switch, but what time scales are you thinking, and how do you propose its done?

Why not reread the thread for answers to those questions?

But once more.....

50 years or so, slowly moving the age care costs down through 3 generations, so that we pay our own not our grandparents.

If you try and do it overnight, you remove so much funding from the economy that you have economic and societal collapse.

adindas

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Good news indeed.

A significant fall in net migration. A lot of this is made up of students. Would this be because they now have to pay more? (I'm not sure how fee's worked for overseas students before now).

Student visa applications are down 46%.

Good if the students VISA are down due to the closing of the loophole from bogus colleges which allow a bogus student who are more interested in working rather than to study.

In the past a bogus student would only need to pay about £500 (not £10,000 like in a regular uni) to a bogus college to keep him register and subsequently extend their visa. There is a great incentive of extending student VISA as after ten years they could get indefinite leave to remain (ILR) and therefore entitle to benefit. After getting ILR They do not need to do low skill job as a cleaner, working in a warehouse, supermarket, anymore in order to get the same income as a low skill worker.

Bogus colleges are selling immigration rather than education and are persistently damaging the reputation of UK higher education.

I love the current government in closing this loophole keep going, close of of the bogus colleges. The previous government were really messing up this country with its immigration policy. Well done, keep continue kicking all of bogus students out if this country .......

OffGridLiving

I've only just found this thread and sorry if this has already been discussed, but I don't understand why immigration and student visas are discussed in the same breath?

Students aren't immigrants, they are supposed to come here for a set duration (the length of the course of study) and leave with their qualifications, ready to do good in their home nations. They shouldn't be working because they are full time students and they shouldn't be claiming benefits because they're not entitled to them because they are not paying taxes (as they are not working).

Why then is a significant drop in student figures being used to meet an immigrant target? They're not migrants.

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Seriously?

That's your reason for wanting to destroy the economy and plunge the nation into a depression for generations?

:rotfl:

What living sustainably in harmony and not forever on an upwards trajectory. Y'up that would do for me.

The economy is not a zero sum game. If population contracted, things would fall into a new equilibrium. If the world takes your route where does it all end? Use up every last fish and to heck with it?

Conrad

Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »

That's terrible news for grass snakes and slow worms.

Any several hundred other species. Maybe the only creatures of their kind in the Universe, being slowly wiped out by the Human pest.

It bothers me more than most things.