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Kept up by someone mowing the lawn between 9:30 and 11pm!!!!

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  • skivenov
    skivenov Posts: 2,204 Forumite
    Haha - yeah "fond" memories of 3 weeks on nights stopping in a B+B on the North Circular in the middle of summer. Window closed meant too hot to breathe. Window open meant traffic noise.
    Yes it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
    Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
  • Gloomendoom
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    skivenov wrote: »
    You obviously haven't got the hang of village living them, the harvest isn't far off, which means combine harvesters running 24 hours a day.

    Ha ha! Oh yes I have! Over 50 years now and it started on a farm. Combine harvesters running 24 hours a day are for "The Greater Good".
  • aliasojo
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    valk_scot wrote: »
    The OP went to bed at 9.30, that would be early to me. The last time I went to bed at 8pm I was ill.

    That's early to me too. However OH has to go to bed between 8.30 & 9.30 as he has to get up for work at 3am.

    I think (in general terms) there are too many people who judge what's ok to do on their own lifestyle and don't really think (or care) about others too much.

    I was brought up to believe 8pm was 'cut off' point for noise. At least this time pretty much ensures the least amount of bother to neighbours, whether that's kids trying to get to sleep or adults on shift work or even just those who've had a crap day and want a bit of peace.

    Any later borders on being a bit selfish imo.

    I know there are some community wide noises that you just can't avoid but a lot could be avoided simply by people making considerate choices.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    pawsies wrote: »
    Maybe he heard the forecast was rain all week and the grass needed cutting... :p

    I thought of this thread this morning. I had a lawn still uncut after the weekend, and its due to rain, plus I am going to be incapacitated tomorrow and have been advised not to do any chores for a couple of days...so the lawn was cut at 7.45 this morning.
  • lostinrates
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    aliasojo wrote: »
    That's early to me too. However OH has to go to bed between 8.30 & 9.30 as he has to get up for work at 3am.

    I think (in general terms) there are too many people who judge what's ok to do on their own lifestyle and don't really think (or care) about others too much.

    I was brought up to believe 8pm was 'cut off' point for noise. At least this time pretty much ensures the least amount of bother to neighbours, whether that's kids trying to get to sleep or adults on shift work or even just those who've had a crap day and want a bit of peace.

    Any later borders on being a bit selfish imo.

    I know there are some community wide noises that you just can't avoid but a lot could be avoided simply by people making considerate choices.

    Ave you never had children playing in the garden after 8pm? Teenagers kicking a ball about and laughing? A BBQ ion the evening with friends? Or even a party?

    I certainly think its worth being considerate. E.g. In our small group of houses we let the others know if we are planning a party (and we are not close to each other, so we are still conscious noise can carry) and usually invite the neighbours to drop in for a drink.

    I am rather noise sensitive, buit I also appreciate its MY over sensitivity and not their problem. I used to live many miles but just within ear shot of Glastonbury. It drove me crazy, but I also realised it was short term and as up difficult as I found it others were getting great pleasure and it was only short term. It's easier to be sanguine about something that happens a few times a year than it is every week...so the occasional lawn being cut out of 'my comfort zone' might make me wild eyed with indigence while it was in progress but it wouldn't be enough to make me dislike my neighbours or raise it and risk conflict. If it were a long term issue occurring very, very regularly, I might feel differently. I don't know though.
  • flower24
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    I think people who are saying it is acceptable probably don't have kids! I know I'd be fuming, my kids would wake up and then be a nightmare the next day. I'd say even 9.30 is too late really, but 11 takes the mickey!
  • aliasojo
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    Ave you never had children playing in the garden after 8pm? Teenagers kicking a ball about and laughing? A BBQ ion the evening with friends? Or even a party?

    Tbh, teenagers and a ball are one of the biggest PITA's I've endured! They are by nature, usually very loud and it's not particularly enjoyable listening to their racket imo.

    In our old place they were roaming the streets till midnight sometimes, yelling, cursing and swearing amongst each other (having 'fun' in their eyes) , kicking balls off people's walls and fences etc.

    Ironically, where we moved to is so peaceful I'm going to be hard pushed to adapt to noise again. Having said that, I've just visited my 75 year old aunt this morning, she was a bit teary today and it turns out the family that moved into the rented property beside her have an 11 year old son who was out with his football last night kicking it against her fence and wall and he wasn't up for taking a telling. She could hear it over her telly and it was really bothering her. She moved house particularly to get peace sadly. But 'he's not doing any harm, he's only playing' is apparently the card that trumps everything else and the peace card is way down in importance.

    I think maybe you either have a better class of teenager near you or you need new glasses (without the rose tint :p). :D

    A summer bbq is usually a now and again thing so that would be tolerable but not if it meant a disturbance every week.

    Don't forget, people's livelihoods can depend on them being able to function well. Lack of sleep can have a serious impact, with certain professions especially.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • lostinrates
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    aliasojo wrote: »
    Tbh, teenagers and a ball are one of the biggest PITA's I've endured! They are by nature, usually very loud and it's not particularly enjoyable listening to their racket imo.

    In our old place they were roaming the streets till midnight sometimes, yelling, cursing and swearing amongst each other (having 'fun' in their eyes) , kicking balls off people's walls and fences etc.

    Ironically, where we moved to is so peaceful I'm going to be hard pushed to adapt to noise again. Having said that, I've just visited my 75 year old aunt this morning, she was a bit teary today and it turns out the family that moved into the rented property beside her have an 11 year old son who was out with his football last night kicking it against her fence and wall and he wasn't up for taking a telling. She could hear it over her telly and it was really bothering her. She moved house particularly to get peace sadly. But 'he's not doing any harm, he's only playing' is apparently the card that trumps everything else and the peace card is way down in importance.

    I think maybe you either have a better class of teenager near you or you need new glasses (without the rose tint :p). :D

    A summer bbq is usually a now and again thing so that would be tolerable but not if it meant a disturbance every week.

    Don't forget, people's livelihoods can depend on them being able to function well. Lack of sleep can have a serious impact, with certain professions especially.

    Some people's livelihoods depend on things which make a noise too.....farming like our neighbours, smallholders like us, we slimy wouldn't be warm if dh didn't sometimes cut wood after eight at a weekend...it's the only time he is here.

    I absolutely agree, frequent high level noise is tortuous, but the occasional understanding that people are on different timetables is necessary to live in anywhere built up.

    Oh, and I agree teenagers with balls are noisy and horrid often....but they exist, and tbh, sometimes they probably do benefit from being a little noisey (and then learning social limits).
  • aliasojo
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    Some people's livelihoods depend on things which make a noise too.....farming like our neighbours, smallholders like us, we slimy wouldn't be warm if dh didn't sometimes cut wood after eight at a weekend...it's the only time he is here.

    Ah but that's completely different imo. I think most of us realise there are certain noises that just 'are' or 'have to be'. We can live with those fairly easily I think. Those are noises for 'need' if you like, not just choice. If that makes sense?

    It's the unnecessary ones that are more difficult to tolerate because then you know it's just caused by someone who doesn't give a toss about anything else other than their desire to do 'whatever' at that particular time, like play football or *insert any other leisure activity here*.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    aliasojo wrote: »
    Ah but that's completely different imo. I think most of us realise there are certain noises that just 'are' or 'have to be'. We can live with those fairly easily I think. Those are noises for 'need' if you like, not just choice. If that makes sense?

    It's the unnecessary ones that are more difficult to tolerate because then you know it's just caused by someone who doesn't give a toss about anything else other than their desire to do 'whatever' at that particular time, like play football or *insert any other leisure activity here*.

    It's difficult. If someone works really long hours and loves gardening, sees their lawn isn't being cut regularly.....I could easily forgive them the occasional antisocial cut. Similarly, I forgive my neighbours the occasional BBQ and teen get together. Of course, it ReALLY helps that they are some distance away.

    This morning, not only did my lawn mowing not disturb anyone, but I would have been tempted to (though would have waited till eight I think) if people had been in earshot. Today is my last chance to do stuff before the rain an an outpatient appt that might leave me fine or might leave me mildly incapacitated for several days. You have to fit things it when you can!

    Tbh the worst noise pollution I ever had was in London living near a school. It was not the children but the MOTHERS shrieking their hellos and orders and social diaries across or down the road at each other. It was such a bad example for their children (who were never even half that loud) on how to behave and be sympathetic to others around them. I have to admit to wanting often to open the window and yell like a fishwife at them, :o
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