Benefit sanctions on families

suzieuncool

I came across this:

In joint claims, both members of the couple are required to meet the conditions for receiving JSA. They are both required to be available for employment, to actively seek work in each week of their claim and to enter into a Jobseeker’s Agreement. If one member of the joint claim receives a sanction, JSA will continue to be paid to the couple at a reduced rate.
However if both members of a joint claim receive a sanction, JSA will not be paid to the couple for the duration of the sanction period.

Alternatively, if either member of a couple is responsible for a child or young person the couple do not need to be a joint claim. In these circumstances, only one member of the couple, the claimant, is required to meet the conditions for receiving JSA; the other member is a dependant. If the claimant receives a sanction,JSA will not be paid to the couple during the sanction period.

Am I the claimant or the dependant if I start claiming JSA. My partner already claims it.

Poppie68

suzieuncool wrote: »

I understand I will be sanctioned but what about my partner and child?. Are we all supposed to live off my £62 child tax credits and £20 child benefit a week?. Three people?. and I have to pay £40ish a week to my rent, what will happen there?. These are the answers I need.

About 15 people (1/4-1/3 of the staff) have left in the last month. The bosses don't care about staff, only money so they wont listen to me. Ive tried to get a new job for about 6 weeks and cant. I don't want to have a breakdown in the meantime....

You will have your partners JSA as well...not too sure but you maybe able to claim full HB, someone else will be able to clarify. Unfortunetly if you decide to walk from your job there will be consequences.

suzieuncool

Poppie68 wrote: »

You will have your partners JSA as well...not too sure but you maybe able to claim full HB, someone else will be able to clarify. Unfortunetly if you decide to walk from your job there will be consequences.

At this time my partner signs on but receives no money as I am excepted to keep him and my daughter off what I receive. Are you saying my partner will start getting the £71ish that he should be getting as a jobseeker as if he was single (as well as full housing benefit and child benefit and child tax credit) but we will not receive the full couples rate JSA until the sanction period is over?

benefitbaby

If you left your job this would mean you would be sanctioned if you made a JSA claim however your partner is already claiming JSA and so if you left your job then he could not be sanctioned. He would need to notify JCP that you are no longer working and they would recalculate entitlement at the couple rate.

However... as noted by other posters you would lose your salary and WTC. So you would have JSA £111 p/w, CB £20.30 p/w, CTC £60 p/w and HB/CTS as appropriate (please note these figures are approximate).

suzieuncool

benefitbaby wrote: »

If you left your job this would mean you would be sanctioned if you made a JSA claim however your partner is already claiming JSA and so if you left your job then he could not be sanctioned. He would need to notify JCP that you are no longer working and they would recalculate entitlement at the couple rate.

However... as noted by other posters you would lose your salary and WTC. So you would have JSA £111 p/w, CB £20.30 p/w, CTC £60 p/w and HB/CTS as appropriate (please note these figures are approximate).

So that's not really a sanction then. That's the amount I would get anyway. Im hoping to get a job soon and I would accept a sanction but I don't feel my partner and daughter should suffer....

benefitbaby

They can't sanction you if you are not the claimant, you would merely be named on your OH's JSA claim.

If you make a claim for JSA in your own right then they can (and most likely will) sanction you for leaving a job voluntarily.

Dunroamin

suzieuncool wrote: »

So that's not really a sanction then. That's the amount I would get anyway. Im hoping to get a job soon and I would accept a sanction but I don't feel my partner and daughter should suffer....

That's really up to you and the choice you decide to make, isn't it?

princessdon

I would take some time to consider this if your OH cannot find work, there is low employment, you could be looking at a long time on benefits and UC will make it better for you.

If you are depressed would your GP support some time off sick, then you can see how you feel when you are not stressed.

It is sign of the times though, I work far more hours than paid for (I am full time not part time), never get time back and it's an employers market, I don't see this improving with immediate affect unless we have some growth.

tomtom256

your not the only person who has more work to do for the same pay and within the same hours.

In this day and age any job has got to better then no job. If everyone quit cause they didn't like their job the country would be in a worse state.

As for your partner and daughter suffering, that would be on you, but if you want to quit, quit. However if your hoping to get a job soon, why not just stick it out?

gingergee

Hi, op. I do feel for you but....... I'd defo keep with it, maybe have a week or so off to clear your head. I wish i had the option of working, but im not allowed. You need a break etc. Could your oh not get a job where you work if the turn around of staff is that bad? Hope you sort something but keep in mind, you don't know what you've got until it's gone x x x G x x x