Fibre install - Free to move master socket?

milson_2

The word SNAP comes to mind, I too am having fibre optic installed on Friday via talktalk, but several people tell me it will be openreach that do the job. Another SNAP comes to mind as we too have a similar plate just inside the front door, and a previous owner/engineer has extended this to an ideal spot.

Having said that, the power is in the opposite corner so a cable runs along two sides of the room, but it isn't in the way of anything/anybody.

There is always the worry that something will not be right on the "night"/day and that extra costs will ensue.

Might be an idea if the original poster and I keep this thread alive, for the benefit of anyone else embarking on this.

KTF

Yes, openreach do the install as it involves the modification/access to BT owned equipment then you pay the bill to the ISP. Its the same for ADSL but as all the work is done down at the exchange you dont see it.

Even if there is additional cost involved, I am willing to pay it as installing the fibre modem in the kitchen is unworkable (and in the way of future kitchen ripping out and refitting work) and there is no power in the hall so the lounge is the most obvious place for it.

Either way, I will post an update on Friday after they have been.

milson_2

So will I. My router arrived today, has your arrived yet?

KTF

Not as yet. We only moved in on Friday and sky held it back until then.

The router shipped on Saturday so I will probably have a card waiting for me when I get home this evening with any luck.

milson_2

They told me not to open the package as if it was damaged or failed to work, I couldn't be held responsible. So there it sits, unopened waiting.

I have to say, I am finding it quite exciting (how sad), I know that when I moved from dial-up to broadband, that was a major thing, so with the prospect of whizzing about is daunting.

KTF

I suspect the box will contain the router that connects to the fibre modem.

They generally tell you not to open it as it wont connect until the line is activated as part of the work that openreach will do anyway.

notbritishgas

KTF
You say the cable from the blanking plate in the hall to the lounge is non BT but is it telephone cable. You can normally tell by looking at the colours of the wires, if they are solid eg blue, orange etc then it will not be telephone cable, but if they are blue with a white band, white with a blue band, orange with a white band and so on then it is telephone cable.
The difference is that telphone cable has a twisted pair format to stop interference.
If you find it is telephone cable then the incoming cable can be crimped to the one to the lounge and the master NTE socket fitted in the lounge.
Now whether you can get the openreach man to do that I do not know. If it was me I would do it myself before Friday and the Openreach guy will be very chuffed to have an easy job.

One drawback is that you would not be able to have any extensions working without connecting them to the face plate in the lounge.

KTF

Just to clarify by non-BT I meant non-BT installed from the nature of the way it has been secured to the wall, etc.

From the image the cable running down from the blank plate is going through the wall to the master socket which is as you would expect.

So you suggesting that I check to see if the wiring is white with stripes and if so then either redo the connections behind the blank plate and/or ask the openreach engineer to change it so that it goes from the blank plate then straight down the 'extension' to the lounge where a new master socket will be fitted.

This would then bypass all existing wiring which I was planning to remove at some point anyway?

Gordon_Hose

I have a feeling the blank plate is meant to be your master socket. If you install a spur in the lounge from this blank socket it won't, technically, be a master socket.

Best thing to do is get the OR engineer to remove the blank plate and wire in a new master socket faceplate in the hall. This will remove all the redundant extensions and you can then run your own wires into the living room. I doubt the OR engineer will do anything more than the bare minimum, which is install a VDSL faceplate, especially if he's got plenty more jobs elsewhere.

I believe you also need power socket next to your master socket for the modem/router.

KTF

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Best thing to do is get the OR engineer to remove the blank plate and wire in a new master socket faceplate in the hall.

I believe you also need power socket next to your master socket for the modem/router.

This is not the solution I want though as if they put a new master socket in the hall and split the faceplate there is:

a) No power socket near the faceplate in the hall to power the fibre modem (a requirement as you say)
b) I would then have to run cat5 from the hall to the lounge which isn't easy to hide under carpets and its concrete floor so cant run under the floor to the lounge either. In theory I could put an Ethernet faceplate on the wall and run it through the cavity but thats not a quick job.

Here is a drawing if it helps:



Red = entry point into house
Blue = Blank plate
Yellow = Master socket in kitchen
Green = Where I would like it (currently a home made extension in that location)

Approximate cable run of the current extension to the lounge is from the blank plate, down the hall, left into the under stairs cupboard then through the wall.