Benifits for a part time employed 22 year old

Bogof_Babe

nannytone wrote: »

but wouldnt the paper boy/girl be employed by the newsagent rather than self employed?

Sorry, I digressed a bit from the OP onto more general taxation matters. If the newsagent employs the child, then YouGov were employing me to do the surveys? I can't believe that anyone who earns literally a few quid doing a one-off odd job for someone is obligated to register as self employed.

But knowing this country, anything's possible .

nannytone_2

were they employing you or contracting your services?

my daugher is a team leader for avon, but also works fukk time and she was told, and also tells the people in her team, that they should register with HMRC as self employed

Morlock

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

But I'm a non-taxpayer and the (averaged) £12.50 a year wouldn't have made me one.

It didn't matter that you weren't a taxpayer, it was still taxable income.

Dogger69

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Sorry, I digressed a bit from the OP onto more general taxation matters. If the newsagent employs the child, then YouGov were employing me to do the surveys? I can't believe that anyone who earns literally a few quid doing a one-off odd job for someone is obligated to register as self employed.

But knowing this country, anything's possible .

Strictly speaking all income needs to be declared, either via an employer or through self assessment. This is not just to do with whether you are liable for tax, but providing one massive audit trail of how money is moving around the economy.

Bogof_Babe

Morlock wrote: »

It didn't matter that you weren't a taxpayer, it was still taxable income.

No it wasn't. It didn't take me above my personal tax free allowance.

Anyway I've packed it in now, they were getting too boring .

Bogof_Babe

Dogger69 wrote: »

Strictly speaking all income needs to be declared, either via an employer or through self assessment. This is not just to do with whether you are liable for tax, but providing one massive audit trail of how money is moving around the economy.

So, given that everyone has some sort of income (even kids have pocket money), why isn't everyone in the country sent a tax return each year?

notanewuser

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

So, given that everyone has some sort of income (even kids have pocket money), why isn't everyone in the country sent a tax return each year?

Because we aren't the USA.

Morlock

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

No it wasn't. It didn't take me above my personal tax free allowance.

It was taxable income, personal allowance is an amount of taxable income that is tax free. You received cash in hand because you did not declare it as taxable income.

princessdon

Even children pay Tax when income goes over PA - as my eldest very nearly found out to her astonishment!

dktreesea

Lagoon wrote: »

The OP's son isn't a student. He's a graduate working part-time in a bar.

Yes, I see. I missed this in the original post.

So it looks like the OP's son may be eligible, depending on income levels, for housing benefit. Given he only works a couple of days a week, this looks like it would be worth applying for.

Having said that, to claim housing benefit you would need to be declaring - and proving to the council - your income. If you are paid under the table, how exactly do you do this? Strictly speaking, you officially have no income, because you are paid off the books and don't declare it. Registering as self employed isn't usually enough for the council. They can still request your bank statements, so they can see the revenue flowing into your account. And may even request invoices, to prove that you have invoiced the business or businesses you claim to be working at.

I don't see being paid off the books as a problem for the employee, provided they declare the income and, if it's sufficient to require it, pay the income tax and NI due on that income. A self assessment tax return can be completed and filed online - you just have to register online with the HMRC first.