Benifits for a part time employed 22 year old

Morlock

pauljoecoe wrote: »

Anyway I think I will leave the 'scroungers' area of this forum and make my way back to the workers, savers, investing capitlist area where I clearly belong.

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Good idea, because you have just made a complete fool of yourself in this one.

Teahfc

pauljoecoe wrote: »

He doesn't want to and he is trying to work out the best way to get a good job with a good income so he can start paying tax and supporting you lot CLAIMING YOUR BENEFITS! :eek:

Personally I think all benefits should be scrapped and I'd be quite happy to support my children if he needs it and not give a damn about the rest of society.* As long as the government agree to stop scfewing me by taking away over 50% of my hard

Did you really expect a sympathetic reception after mentioning your offspring works for cash in hand ( because he does not earn enough to pay tax ..really) and is wanting help with benefits because although he covers all his outgoings he is skint at the end of the week?
Welcome to 2013, many on here are ready to offer advice not because they " claim benefits" but the are knowledgable workers.
To give it the big " I pay all this tax blah blah .. Never claimed a penny blah bah does not help your cause.
If you are such a big shot tax payer maybe educate your offspring to do the same .
Failing that either eat humble pie and continue the thread or make out another user name and ask the same question in different wording !

Ps: thanks for paying all that tax makes me sleep so much better knowing we have hard working honest citizens in this country

maginot

If you have been a high rate tax payer for 35 years are you not able to give your child a couple of quid to help him out. You say he wants to be independent and get a good career, often claiming benefits doesn't help with this.

To answer your question he may be entitled to shared rate HB and JSA (although his part time job is likely to wipe this out).

Would it not be possible for him to move back home, as he would have more time for job hunting and not worry about bills. This woukd be my advice.

Poppie68

pauljoecoe wrote: »

Oh my goodness. I didn't realise this genuine enquiry for info from someone who has never calimed a penny off the state and paid his way all his life on behalf of a person who IS NOT CLIAMING BENEFITS and is working damn hard to make headway in a career would wake up all the self righteous fingerwagging preachers on here. Save it for the real scoungers who are using this forum to try and screw the government for every penny it has.

Of course he could get more bar work. He could work in a bar 7 days a week 12 hours a day. He doesn't want to and he is trying to work out the best way to get a good job with a good income so he can start paying tax and supporting you lot CLAIMING YOUR BENEFITS! :eek:

Personally I think all benefits should be scrapped and I'd be quite happy to support my children if he needs it and not give a damn about the rest of society.* As long as the government agree to stop scfewing me by taking away over 50% of my hard earned!

*playing devils advocate a little here.

Until that time I will try to help him get the best for himself and preferbly legally. Which was the point of my orginal enquiry but missed by many of you self righteous folk.

Anyway I think I will leave the 'scroungers' area of this forum and make my way back to the workers, savers, investing capitlist area where I clearly belong.

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Such contempt for 'scroungers' but asking for help and advice so your son can join the ranks, and all the while your son is not declaring money he is earning?

You say he can get more bar work, but does'nt want to, aw bless him is he always going to be so precious????

Maybe if he did he would'nt have to become a much detested drain on society..but obviously the rules for you and your own differ from everyone else.. You think your so smart and a cut above the rest so you blinkin help him out, is'nt that what parents do?

Lagoon

Wow. Just wow.

You're not the only person in the world to pay tax, OP.

Dunroamin

pauljoecoe wrote: »

Personally I think all benefits should be scrapped and I'd be quite happy to support my children if he needs it and not give a damn about the rest of society.* As long as the government agree to stop scfewing me by taking away over 50% of my hard earned!

I really hate higher rate tax payers who try to make out that they pay the higher rate on all their earnings!

HOWMUCH

pauljoecoe wrote: »

Oh my goodness. I didn't realise this genuine enquiry for info from someone who has never calimed a penny off the state and paid his way all his life on behalf of a person who IS NOT CLIAMING BENEFITS and is working damn hard to make headway in a career would wake up all the self righteous fingerwagging preachers on here. Save it for the real scoungers who are using this forum to try and screw the government for every penny it has.

Of course he could get more bar work. He could work in a bar 7 days a week 12 hours a day. He doesn't want to and he is trying to work out the best way to get a good job with a good income so he can start paying tax and supporting you lot CLAIMING YOUR BENEFITS! :eek:

Personally I think all benefits should be scrapped and I'd be quite happy to support my children if he needs it and not give a damn about the rest of society.* As long as the government agree to stop scfewing me by taking away over 50% of my hard earned!

*playing devils advocate a little here.

Until that time I will try to help him get the best for himself and preferbly legally. Which was the point of my orginal enquiry but missed by many of you self righteous folk.

Anyway I think I will leave the 'scroungers' area of this forum and make my way back to the workers, savers, investing capitlist area where I clearly belong.

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I only claim working tax credit and have worked 2 jobs a 37hr job and a 20hr job for 7 years back in the 90's, so I felt qualified to be able to make the statement I made. You do what you have to do when you have a young family and want to provide for them. And I was alot older than 22 years old. I still work the 37hr job and been there for 21years. I'm the mum of a 40% tax payer due to me supporting her through University and she never had no handouts from the state. So no need to be rude to a perfectly good statement I made!

dodger1

pauljoecoe wrote: »

Anyway I think I will leave the 'scroungers' area of this forum and make my way back to the workers, savers, investing capitlist area where I clearly belong.

Probably for the best, goodbye.

lukieboy96

You say 'legally' and yet he works for cash in hand but he wants benefits. Sounds like he is in the league of so called 'scroungers!'

StormyWeather_2

pauljoecoe wrote: »

What benefits is he entitled to (how much?) and how can he legally contine to work in this 'informal' way but make it all above board and get some help whilst he carves a way to his long term career hopes? He is quite reluctant to claim anything as he is quite proud of the fact that he is self sufficent at the moment but it is a very insecure situation.

I don't understand some of the replies. They haven't made enough to pay tax so far and the OP asked how the son can make this above board.

Do as suggested. He registers as self employed and has his casual income paid that way. It means he'll have to do the supplementary forms for tax return purposes. If his SE earnings are high enough he would have to pay class 2 NI contributions. He can apply for exemption if his SE earnings are under a certain amount. Sorry, I don't know the current thresholds.

He needs to be organised with his paperwork. I suggest an A4 envelope for each month to store any receipts, invoices, proof of travel expenses as he receives them. Then at the end of the month, do a profit and loss calculation on Excel, or on paper if he doesn't have access to a computer. If he uses a computer make sure he backs up any accounts on a memory stick.

If he applies for housing benefit, he should explain the fluctuating income and ask how often he needs update them. He'd need to show them the profit and loss, wage slips from the bar work and bank statements.

Could he not get a few more bar shifts?