Benifits for a part time employed 22 year old

Bogof_Babe

I too was a bit bemused by the cries of "he must register for tax", as he isn't earning enough to have to pay any.

Does this mean that every Avon rep who makes a few pounds a week selling to close friends and relatives should be "registered for tax"? I'd have thought the tax office would appreciate not being bombarded with nil returns, when they have enough to do processing those for people who are liable.

Happy to be corrected on this, but I can understand the OP's uncertainty.

nannytone_2

avon reps are supposed to register as self employed, whether they do or not is something different.

i think people were bothered because if the OP's sons 'declared' income did not inclued the 'cash in hand' wage, and so he would be awarded HB without the additional sum being taken into consideration.
thus he would receive nire benefit than ge was entitled to

paulineb_2

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

I too was a bit bemused by the cries of "he must register for tax", as he isn't earning enough to have to pay any.

Does this mean that every Avon rep who makes a few pounds a week selling to close friends and relatives should be "registered for tax"? I'd have thought the tax office would appreciate not being bombarded with nil returns, when they have enough to do processing those for people who are liable.

Happy to be corrected on this, but I can understand the OP's uncertainty.

It doesnt matter whether he earns enough to pay tax or not, if you have income, it needs to be declared to HMRC, either employed or self employed. His employer shouldnt be paying him cash in hand, it should be declared. It doesnt sound as if he earns enough to get NI stamp paid anyway, I dont see any reason why the employer cant just pay him through the books. I worked part time last year and my employer didnt pay NI contributions, I didnt earn enough.

His employer is breaking the law, but if he wants to claim benefits, having a job on the side is just asking to be investigated, he would be better just signing on, hed get his NI stamp paid and he might earn more than hes getting just now in the bar and no, thats not great when you have a strong work ethic, another option is to get a bar job where, no matter if he earns 30 quid a week or 150 quid a week, he'll be put through the books and get payslips.

paulineb_2

Ah ok, its not the bar job thats cash in hand. He could sign on, but he cant sign on and earn at the same time and it doesnt look like he works enough hours for working tax credits.

He might be eligible for housing benefit and council tax benefit if he hasnt already applied for it, but they need to see payslips.

nannytone_2

paulineb wrote: »

Ah ok, its not the bar job thats cash in hand. He could sign on, but he cant sign on and earn at the same time and it doesnt look like he works enough hours for working tax credits.

He might be eligible for housing benefit and council tax benefit if he hasnt already applied for it, but they need to see payslips.

he also isnt old enough to get tax credits

Housing_Benefit_Officer

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

I too was a bit bemused by the cries of "he must register for tax", as he isn't earning enough to have to pay any.

Does this mean that every Avon rep who makes a few pounds a week selling to close friends and relatives should be "registered for tax"? I'd have thought the tax office would appreciate not being bombarded with nil returns, when they have enough to do processing those for people who are liable.

Happy to be corrected on this, but I can understand the OP's uncertainty.

Avon provides HMRC with a list of all their reps.

StormyWeather_2

nannytone wrote: »

avon reps are supposed to register as self employed, whether they do or not is something different.

i think people were bothered because if the OP's sons 'declared' income did not inclued the 'cash in hand' wage, and so he would be awarded HB without the additional sum being taken into consideration.
thus he would receive nire benefit than ge was entitled to

The OP clearly asks how he can do this above board and if there is anything he can claim, so the two changes go hand in hand.

The HB starts from the day he claims, so as long as he registers as self employed and declares any future income I don't see a problem with it.

nannytone_2

StormyWeather wrote: »

The OP clearly asks how he can do this above board and if there is anything he can claim, so the two changes go hand in hand.

The HB starts from the day he claims, so as long as he registers as self employed and declares any future income I don't see a problem with it.

i know what the OP said, and you will notice that i didn't comment.
i am only saying what the propblem that other posters have seems to be

Lagoon

StormyWeather wrote: »

The OP clearly asks how he can do this above board and if there is anything he can claim, so the two changes go hand in hand.

The HB starts from the day he claims, so as long as he registers as self employed and declares any future income I don't see a problem with it.

I think the issues people have are that the OP's son wasn't worried about doing everything above board before. Only NOW does he want to do things above board - because he wants to receive benefits.

Additionally, he could be earning more at his current job by working more hours, but 'doesn't want to' and would instead rather claim benefits.

All this, coupled with his father's 'I'm unique, I pay tax, therefore my son should be entitled to benefits' attitude has got a few backs up.

paulineb_2

StormyWeather wrote: »

The OP clearly asks how he can do this above board and if there is anything he can claim, so the two changes go hand in hand.

The HB starts from the day he claims, so as long as he registers as self employed and declares any future income I don't see a problem with it.

Personally, not bothered about that in the slightest, if someone wants to take the risk of working cash in hand, they run the risk of getting investigated and caught.

Its a shame though, that the thread had to end in name calling and those sweeping generalisations about people who claim benefit.