Dummy Home CCTV Camera's Neighbour Dispute. Police Called.

Mary_Hartnell

Oblivion wrote: »

It may have changed since I was in Local Government but in my day, if you wanted to run a business from a residential property you had to seek planning consent 'Change of Use'. That would, IF approved (most were not) then invoke the payment of Business Rates.

My advice would be to contact your council and ask what is the status of your neighbours property and whether they are authorised to run a business from it. Might stir up a few feathers

It has to be a bit more complex than this or the country's army of self employed would be in trouble.
Not to mention all those accountants, architects, solicitors, surveyors .......... who see clients at home.

Unless the neighbours are employing a significant number of staff or causing traffic problems, I would expect the Council to leave them alone; mind you as local councils are desperate for any extra revenue and every member of their staff will have to justify their job, expect all sorts of "spurious" (?) make money/work schemes.

Mojisola

Mary_Hartnell wrote: »

It has to be a bit more complex than this or the country's army of self employed would be in trouble.
Not to mention all those accountants, architects, solicitors, surveyors .......... who see clients at home.

Unless the neighbours are employing a significant number of staff or causing traffic problems, I would expect the Council to leave them alone; mind you as local councils are desperate for any extra revenue and every member of their staff will have to justify their job, expect all sorts of "spurious" (?) make money/work schemes.

When we starting running a business from home, we were told that if we had an area of the house that was only used for business purposes, we would have to pay business rates on a pro rata scale. If the room was also used by the family as, say, a spare bedroom, business rates didn't need to be paid.

Mary_Hartnell

Yes expect the present rapacious grasping state to try to muscle on the profits generated by the likes of this man's activity ???????????:

My local town centre has responded to mumerous empty shops and near fake charity tenancies by slapping on parking restrictions until midnight. Just might be needed on a Friday or Saturday evening but the rest is not rationing parking its is just profiteering and will continue to kill local enterprise.

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electribem

Mary_Hartnell wrote: »

It has to be a bit more complex than this or the country's army of self employed would be in trouble.
Not to mention all those accountants, architects, solicitors, surveyors .......... who see clients at home.

Unless the neighbours are employing a significant number of staff or causing traffic problems, I would expect the Council to leave them alone; mind you as local councils are desperate for any extra revenue and every member of their staff will have to justify their job, expect all sorts of "spurious" (?) make money/work schemes.

But what strikes me as odd was the main crux of the neighbours venom was that the dummy camera was invading clients privay. Yet when we told the policeman that a counselling service was being conducted on thier premesis, he looked surprised and said they never told me that.

electribem

Mojisola wrote: »

When we starting running a business from home, we were told that if we had an area of the house that was only used for business purposes, we would have to pay business rates on a pro rata scale. If the room was also used by the family as, say, a spare bedroom, business rates didn't need to be paid.

But don't you think if you had a neighbour who is taking steps to prevent crime at their property that you would welcome that? What if a real camera captured a break in or an assault that affected both neighbours....wouldn't it be great to have that evidence to hand. But no they choose to be selfish, close minded and not very smart.

electribem

As neighbours we should all be looking out for each other. Some neighbours in fact do but in my experience not so. If I saw my neighbour putting up CCTV the 1st question I would ask is are you alright over there. Did you have a break in etc.. I would never assume someone was being a peeping tom. Come on what makes you think you're so important and self righteous.

Mojisola

electribem wrote: »

But don't you think if you had a neighbour who is taking steps to prevent crime at their property that you would welcome that? What if a real camera captured a break in or an assault that affected both neighbours....wouldn't it be great to have that evidence to hand. But no they choose to be selfish, close minded and not very smart.

I wouldn't have any problems with a camera on a neighbour's house as regarding myself and family. I wouldn't want one recording us in our back garden but, other than that, I would be fine with it.

If I thought my clients wouldn't like it and would lose business as a consequence, I might think differently.

thistledome

electribem wrote: »

Thank you for your reply. I have sent an email to the council asking that very question. Will keep you posted on the outcome.

Destroy your neighbour's livelihood because he complained about your camera. Good idea.

What's the next escalation to be? Sending unwanted taxis, pizzas and undertakers to each other's houses? Feuds glorious feuds :rotfl:

electribem

Mojisola wrote: »

I wouldn't have any problems with a camera on a neighbour's house as regarding myself and family. I wouldn't want one recording us in our back garden but, other than that, I would be fine with it.

If I thought my clients wouldn't like it and would lose business as a consequence, I might think differently.

But surely if their clients wouldn't like it then take your business off residential premises and rent a quite office space somewhere to keep it confidential. I don't understand why you would run a sensitive business like that from a residential property. They even get clients to park on the next road!

electribem

thistledome wrote: »

Destroy your neighbour's livelihood because he complained about your camera. Good idea.

What's the next escalation to be? Sending unwanted taxis, pizzas and undertakers to each other's houses? Feuds glorious feuds :rotfl:

Well look lets be honest here it's all petty. All because of a plastic dummy. How hilarious. One to tell the grand kids for sure.