TV Licence

katejo

tomwakefield wrote: »

TV licensing state a licence covers a household, not an individual person
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Lodgers need their own licence because they have their own tenancy agreement, so it is considered a separate property.

This is also why, for instance, if a group of people rent a shared house together under a joint tenancy agreement then only one licence is needed, but if each room has a separate agreement, then a licence is needed for each room.

It is true that the TV licensing website is worded badly with regard to lodgers. It only refers to tenancy agreements which lodgers do not have. I queried this with them several years ago. I would reproduce the answer here but my old laptop crashed and i lost the reply. They insisted however that the following statement applies.

No licence is needed if

If you’re a lodger and have a relationship with the homeowner – for example, a family member, common law partner, a nanny, au pair or housekeeperr

All other lodgers must have a licence in their own name if they have a TV in their room.

System

katejo wrote: »

Lodgers don't have tenancy agreements. Those are for tenants only. They have a licence (if anything at all). My lodger simply has a room in my house plus use of kitchen/living area etc. The TV licencing agency insists that a lodger must have his/her own licence if they have their own TV in the room.

A lodger should have a tenancy agreement? It should be with you in your case?

katejo

goater78 wrote: »

A lodger should have a tenancy agreement? It should be with you in your case?

Lodgers are NOT allowed to have tenancy agreements. They can only have a licence. The following quote is from the Spareroom website which gives guidance to prospective landlords.

Having a lodger in your house is different from renting a property to regular tenants. For starters, you don't use a tenancy contract but a licence agreement.

We've bundled together all the documents you'll need to start your lodger relationship off on the right foot, including a Lodger Agreement, Inventory and deposit documentation as well as a notice to quit, should you need to


I was very surprised when I was first told that a lodger needed their own TV licence. I argued with the TV licencing agency by phone and email. I proved that I did not have tenants with self contained accommodation but just a single lodger who shared the house with me. They absolutely insisted that my lodger needed a licence taken out in his/her name.

Equaliser123

goater78 wrote: »

A lodger should have a tenancy agreement? It should be with you in your case?

That would make them a tenant. Not a lodger.

System

Equaliser123 wrote: »

That would make them a tenant. Not a lodger.

Yeah that's already been answered.

Keep up.....

katejo

Equaliser123 wrote: »

That would make them a tenant. Not a lodger.

I have emailed the TV licence authority again to say that the wording of their rules is not clear because of the way that they use the word tenancy wrongly . If I get a reply , I will add it here .

System

katejo wrote: »

I have emailed the TV licence authority again to say that the wording of their rules is not clear because of the way that they use the word tenancy wrongly . If I get a reply , I will add it here .

He's not actually interested. He stalks these forums waiting for me to make an error which he can then pounce on.

In reality he has no interest in the actual topic

Equaliser123

katejo wrote: »

I have emailed the TV licence authority again to say that the wording of their rules is not clear because of the way that they use the word tenancy wrongly . If I get a reply , I will add it here .

Let us know what they say as I think they are fundamentally misunderstanding the concept.

System

Good save

katejo

Equaliser123 wrote: »

Let us know what they say as I think they are fundamentally misunderstanding the concept.

I have just had a reply from them . I will add it to here later today as I am now using iPod . Reply does not refer to tenancy or lodger at all .